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Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament

I've seen this book written by Steven Runge, and it looks very interesting! Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament. Has anyone here read it or heard of it? What are your initial thoughts?
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principal parts of φαίνω

I'm a little confused by the principal parts of the verb φαίνω, as I've seen at least three different sets:

, φανοῦμαι, ἔφανα, -, -, ἐφάνην
φανήσομαι, ἔφανα, -, -, ἐφάνην
φανῶ, ἔφανα, πέφαγκα, πέφασμαι, ἐφάνθην

Which one is correct?

Also, why are the principal parts of verbs not listed in Greek dictionaries? Latin dictionaries generally do, but Greek dictionaries seem to want you to root through a long list of forms to gather the ...
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sub-set proposition and convertible proposition

Ἰησοῦς ἐστιν ὁ λόγος

Is the above statement a sub-set proposition or a convertible proposition ?
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Oratio Variata Acts 1:4 Acts 23:22-23

Acts 1:4 καὶ συναλιζόμενος παρήγγειλεν αὐτοῖς ἀπὸ Ἱεροσολύμων μὴ χωρίζεσθαι ἀλλὰ περιμένειν τὴν ἐπαγγελίαν τοῦ πατρὸς ἣν ἠκούσατέ μου,

Acts 23:22 ὁ μὲν οὖν χιλίαρχος ἀπέλυσε τὸν νεανίσκον παραγγείλας μηδενὶ ἐκλαλῆσαι ὅτι ταῦτα ἐνεφάνισας πρός με. 23 Καὶ προσκαλεσάμενος δύο τῶν ἑκατονταρχῶν εἶπεν· ἑτοιμάσατε στρατιώτας διακοσίους, ὅπως πορευθῶσιν ἕως Καισαρείας, καὶ ἱππεῖς ἑβδομήκοντα καὶ δεξιολάβους διακοσίους ἀπὸ τρίτης ὥρας τῆς νυκτός,

Acts 1:4 RSV And while staying with them he charged them not to ...
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An inspection of John 1:1

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.

So if the above means "In the beginning was the Son, and the Son was with the Father, and the Son was God" why didn't the author write just that, write what he meant ? In other words why didn't he write

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ υἱὸς, καὶ ὁ υἱὸς ἦν πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα, καὶ θεός ἦν ...
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Luke 13:4 adverbial prepositional phrase

The general rule is that when a prepositional phrase is found within the article group, it goes with the substantive, whereas if found outside the article group, it is more or less adverbial.

οἱ σὺν ἀσπίσι πολέμιοι ἀπόλλυνται.

The enemies who have shields are being destroyed.

οἱ πολέμιοι σὺν ἀσπίσι ἀπόλλυνται.

The enemies are being destroyed (along) with their shields.

The distinction is often slight, of course.

Luke 13:4 ἢ ἐκεῖνοι οἱ δεκαοκτὼ ἐφ' ...
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John 1:10

Somewhat obvious .... I think it's safe to say that the antecedent of αὐτόν in verse 10 is τὸ φῶς in verse 9 ...

10 ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἦν, καὶ ὁ κόσμος δι’ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ ὁ κόσμος αὐτὸν οὐκ ἔγνω.

Agreed?.. I've actually heard some people say "Jesus in verse 17." :shock:
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John 1:7 b αὐτοῦ Jesus or John the Baptist?

John 1:7: οὗτος ἦλθεν εἰς μαρτυρίαν, ἵνα μαρτυρήσῃ περὶ τοῦ φωτός, ἵνα πάντες πιστεύσωσιν δι' αὐτοῦ.

Everytime I have read this, without really thinking about it, I assumed that the αὐτοῦ refers to the light=Jesus.

"...so that everyone might believe through it/him (i.e. the light, that is Jesus.")

But I note that Nonnus' paraphrase has

Nonnus 1:7b: ἵνα πάντες ἑνὸς κήρυκος ἰωῇ ὀρθὴν πίστιν ἔχοιεν...
...so that all might through the voice of one ...
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"ἦν" in John 1:1

Hey Guys,

I was wondering what usage the ἦν's in John 1:1 would be labeled as, I was thinking Gnomic, but appearently, a Gnomic Imperfect doesn't really exist in the NT. If this is a Customary Imperfect, how is it seen as something that extends to before "ἐν ἀρχῃ." Could it be leximatic? Johns use of ειμι rather than γινομαι? Anyway, I've been going through my syntax books, and am having trouble trying to classify ...
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Odd findings with circumflex accents and kappa symbols

Hello everyone!

Been a long time since my last post but I am getting back into my Greek studies and found an oddity that despite my trundling through the internets, can't seem to find an answer!

1) in my Novum Testamentum Graece the circumflex accents appear to be different than the accents in my Mounce's BBG and Athenaze. Does anyone know the reason for the difference?

2) in A Reader's Greek New Testament, the kappa ...
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