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sub-set propositions

According to Wallace in GGBB, p. 41, there are two types of S-PN constructions.

(a) The subset proposition. >> This is where the S (subject) is a subset of the PN (predicate nominative).

(b) The convertible proposition. >> This construction indicates an identical exchange. This is the less frequent semantic relationship between S and PN. In this construction, both nouns have an identical referent. The mathematical formulas of A=B, B=A are applicable in such instances. ...
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Vocab sorted via NT book?

Anyone know of some "flashcard software" that has vocabulary separated by frequency in NT Book? I'd like to be able to memorize vocabulary as I go through certain chapters and books! It seems more relevant than going through random words.
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The Greek of Simplicius

Was his Gr. κοινή? Does that mean that it is very different from the Gr. of say Plato and Aristotle?
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Acts 4:10-11 Luke's use of pronouns

Acts 4:10-11 SBLGNT γνωστὸν ἔστω πᾶσιν ὑμῖν καὶ παντὶ τῷ λαῷ Ἰσραὴλ ὅτι ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῦ Ναζωραίου, ὃν ὑμεῖς ἐσταυρώσατε, ὃν ὁ θεὸς ἤγειρεν ἐκ νεκρῶν, ἐν τούτῳ οὗτος παρέστηκεν ἐνώπιον ὑμῶν ὑγιής. 11 οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ λίθος ὁ ἐξουθενηθεὶς ὑφʼ ὑμῶν τῶν ⸀οἰκοδόμων, ὁ γενόμενος εἰς κεφαλὴν γωνίας.

Second person pronoun is unnecessary ὃν ὑμεῖς ἐσταυρώσατε and therefore marked. In οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ λίθος ὁ ἐξουθενηθεὶς ὑφʼ ὑμῶν τῶν ⸀οἰκοδόμων, ὑμῶν ...
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What Pronunciation scheme do you use?

Just out of curiosity, what pronunciation scheme do you(υμεις) use when reading aloud?

I use the modern pronunciation, except I keep the rough breathing sound. I've been considering using the "oo" sound for the υ in υμεις just for differentiating purposes. But I haven't committed yet because I don't want to loose the consistency I have now.

I've thought of switching to Randall Buth's scheme, but It would be a lot of work to "switch" ...
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Particle Proliferation!

Ιωαννην 20:30 wrote:30 Πολλὰ μὲν οὖν καὶ ἄλλα σημεῖα ἐποίησεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἐνώπιον τῶν μαθητῶν, ἃ οὐκ ἔστιν γεγραμμένα ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ·

Four particles all in a row! two postpositives. What kind of Symantic situation does this bring to the table. I don't really understand this phrase at all. Can someone help me here? It seems multiple particles in a row tend to trip me up rather frequently!

(w00t! no longer a textkit neophyte!)
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principal parts of ἅπτω

What are the principal parts of ἅπτω?

I'm still really struggling with finding the principal parts of verbs. All I'm after is a resource that lists Greek verbs with their six principal parts, but all I've found so far are either resources that list them incompletely, e.g., Mounce's BBG lists only ἧψα as the aorist, but I've since discovered the future ἅψω as well, or something like the LSJ, which tends to list a large ...
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Whic GNT do you use?

Which GNT do you currently read from? There are many editions of the GNT available today, and I was wondering if anyone used something that differs from the standard NA/UBS texts.

I've been using the UBS4 readers edition simply because it has quality binding, good layout for the running dictionary, a good font and small enough to carry around! As far as actual text goes, Im on the fence with a Byzentine text such as ...
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Early Fathers and Church Writings

Hey All,

I've compiled a number of public domain writings from the Apostolic fathers into a handy PDF :) I have, the Didache, number of epistles from Ignatius, Barnabas, Clement, Shephard of Hermas and others in greek. I've formatted them into a document for the purpose of printing a 9 x 6 book (I work at a printshop and my boss lets me run personal jobs from ...
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What kind of genitives are these ?

Phil. 2:6-8,

ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ,ἀλλὰ ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν μορφὴν δούλου λαβών, ἐν ὁμοιώματι ἀνθρώπων γενόμενος· καὶ σχήματι εὑρεθεὶς ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἐταπείνωσεν ἑαυτὸν γενόμενος ὑπήκοος μέχρι θανάτου, θανάτου δὲ σταυροῦ.

I'm inclined to think that θεοῦ and δούλου above are attributive genitives. Opinions ?

This list might be helpful -- http://www.ntgreek.org/pdf/genitive_case.pdf
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