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Romans 12:2 and the word kai

Romans 12:2 speaks of "tó  dokimázein  humás  tí  tó  théleema  toú  Theoú
tó  agathón  kaí  euáreston  kaí  téleion." In the English, it would be common to find the phrase as "the good, acceptable, perfect will of God," without the use of the conjunction "and." In Romans 12:2, in the Greek the adjectives are connected with the word "and" (kai). I was trying to find out if there is any significance to this structure in the ...
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Matt 5:38-48

Eugene DeVries has a great reading of Matthew 5:38-48 in a recovered Koine pronunciation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYk7IZPBvU

I've posted a video response:

http://youtu.be/TG6RwlYTtMU

Post some comments to his video! I think that either encouragement in Greek or English would be worthwhile. It's really good, and he should be making more videos.
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In New Testament Greek, should Savior be capitalized

I've been looking at different versions of my Greek Bibles and in the same verse, different Bibles will either write Σωτήρ or σωτήρ. And I'm wondering which of these is correct.

I'm mainly asking this because I am designing a tattoo that is comprised of the intersection of σωτήρ and τετέλεσται, with τετέλεσται going vertical. I was going to leave it as a lower case σ because I feel that the upper case looks out ...
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Inspecting John 17:5

Isaac Newton wrote:I do not believe in the "full Divinity" of Christ. I believe he was a man, nothing more, nothing less. To be sure he wasn't a "mere" man,for he was without sin, for starters . So he was the greatest of men, a human being who always did his Father's will, the son in whom a Father rejoices with all his heart.


Hi, Isaac:

John 17:5: καὶ νῦν δόξασόν με σύ, πάτερ, παρὰ ...
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restrictive use of the attributive adjective

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So, Let me tell you a little bit about myself and then ask my question. I like to read Christian fiction novels(Dee Henderson, Frank Peretti, etc.,) Love puzzles like Rubik's cube, Sudoku, and the like.

I am trying to learn Greek to better understand the Bible. I haven't gotten very far, but, while I am in ...
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Gal. 1:1 Θεοῦ Πατρὸς

Let's print out the verse:

Παῦλος ἀπόστολος, οὐκ ἀπ’ ἀνθρώπων οὐδὲ δι’ ἀνθρώπου ἀλλὰ διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ Θεοῦ Πατρὸς τοῦ ἐγείραντος αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν,


Most translations render above as "God the Father." For example,

New International Version

Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--



However this is an ungrammatical translation since the bold English expression ...
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Does Mounce get easier after Chapter 30

I am just wrapping up participles and my other classes are getting busy too. Can I expect it to get easier as I move into the subjunctive and infinitive etc. or should I brace myself for even harder work?
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ἀρνίον Revelation & ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ John

The question has come up again about both meaning and the identity (referent) of τὸ ἀρνίον τὸ ἐσφαγμένον in the Apocalypse. A discussion of which might be launched by looking at ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ in GJn 1:29,36.

John 1:29 Τῇ ἐπαύριον βλέπει τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐρχόμενον πρὸς αὐτὸν καὶ λέγει· ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ὁ αἴρων τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου.

John 1:36 καὶ ἐμβλέψας τῷ Ἰησοῦ περιπατοῦντι λέγει· ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ.

Rev. ...


Inspecting John 20:28

ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ Θεός μου.


The thing which immediately stands out for me here is that underlined is a TSKTS construction. In the bible, TSKTS (article substantive kai article substantive) constructions almost invariably connote two different individuals. Now, in order to conduct proper exegesis, we must always stay within the bounds of what the grammar allows us to do, and in this case the grammar is telling us ...
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Origen on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Do you mind if I re-post a question I asked recently at B-Greek, but which hasn't yet prompted any replies?

It's a sentence from Origen's commentary on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Καὶ ἄλλοθεν δὲ τοῦτο παραστήσω, εἰ καὶ ἐκεῖνο ἀσφαλέστερον εἴρηται περὶ τοῦ μὴ τὴν γυναῖκα ἡγεμόνα γίνεσθαι τῷ λόγῳ τοῦ ἀνδρός·

I am trying to understand what ἐκεῖνο is referring to here. There is a translation by Judith Kovacs of almost all the whole passage, ...
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