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What kind of genitives are these ?

Phil. 2:6-8,

ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ,ἀλλὰ ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν μορφὴν δούλου λαβών, ἐν ὁμοιώματι ἀνθρώπων γενόμενος· καὶ σχήματι εὑρεθεὶς ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἐταπείνωσεν ἑαυτὸν γενόμενος ὑπήκοος μέχρι θανάτου, θανάτου δὲ σταυροῦ.

I'm inclined to think that θεοῦ and δούλου above are attributive genitives. Opinions ?

This list might be helpful -- http://www.ntgreek.org/pdf/genitive_case.pdf
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Koine Composition

Is there any material that would assist with composition in koine? I've looked at Sedwick's stuff and it looks very decent, but its focus is on Attic! Is it worthwhile learning attic? is there much more to learn in a transition from koine?
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morphological help please. Mk 8.37 'doi'


Mounce lists this verb as being aor act subj 3 sg. The trouble I'm having is that I can't understand why that's the case! I have looked through 'morphology of biblical greek' but am left none the wiser. If anyone is able to explain the form I would be most grateful. Thank you.

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Koine and Word Order

I've been poking around on this general idea for a little bit and can't seem to find anything conclusive on the matter. Is there a "de facto" word order in koine greek? I'd love to here your thoughts and some recommendations for articles or books that cover this area.
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Use of an interlinear?

I have a few interlinear New Testaments in my library here, and I was just wondering... Among those of us who are learning to read Koine, do you find them useful for anything? As someone who can find his way fairly well through the Greek Text, I find interlinear texts cumbersome and... Just plain annoying! If you don't know greek, then an interlinear is useless to you, and if you know, even just the slightest ...
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Can we agree that when Orthodox Trinitarians say "God is three persons , one essence" the standard and universally accepted corresponding Greek word for "person" is ὑπόστασις, and the corresponding Greek word for "essence" is οὐσία ?

As the trinitarian theologian Joseph Bryennios wrote in the 15 century :

Θεὸν δὲ ὅταν εἴπω, λέγω Πατέρα, Υἱὸν καὶ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμά, τὴν ὑπέρθεον καὶ ἀνωτάτην Τριάδα. Πατήρ, Υἱὸς καὶ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα, μία Θεότης τρία ἰδιώματα· μία οὐσία, ...
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Analysis of 1 John 1:1-4

My favourite book . It's a very holy letter and deserves the utmost care and respect in exegesis IMHO. Just reading it (original Greek or English ) gives one peace of mind.

Here is verse one :

Ὃ ἦν ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς, ὃ ἀκηκόαμεν, ὁ ἑωράκαμεν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ἡμῶν, ὃ ἐθεασάμεθα καὶ αἱ χεῖρες ἡμῶν ἐψηλάφησαν περὶ τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς—.

I'm looking at the prepositional phrase at the end of verse 1 and have come ...
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John 10:8 question

John 10:8 wrote:πάντες ὅσοι ἦλθον πρὸ ἐμοῦ κλέπται εἰσιν καὶ λῃσταί, ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἤκουσαν αὐτῶν τὰ πρόβατα.

Hey Guys, I'm having some problems with the second word in this passage. It seems the english translations ignore it. How does ὅσοι modify πάντες. what force does it have?
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Wallace on John 1:12

In Greek Grammar and the Personality of the Holy Spirit (http://www.ibr-bbr.org/files/bbr/BBR_20 ... Spirit.pdf), Wallace says John 1:12 is an example of constructio ad sensum but doesn't elaborate. Here's John 1:12,

δὲ ἔλαβον αὐτὸν, ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς ἐξουσίαν τέκνα θεοὺ γενέσθαι, τοῖς πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αυτοῦ,

Is he talking about the masculine τοῖς and the masculine form of the participle πιστεύουσιν referring to the neuter gendered τέκνα ? ...
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