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Iliad Book 1, line 64

Hi, just wondered if anyone could help explain this translation of a line in the Iliad (1.64):

ἀλλ᾽ ἄγε δή τινα μάντιν ἐρείομεν ἢ ἱερῆα
ἢ καὶ ὀνειροπόλον, καὶ γάρ τ᾽ ὄναρ ἐκ Διός ἐστιν,
ὅς κ᾽ εἴποι ὅ τι τόσσον ἐχώσατο Φοῖβος Ἀπόλλων,

It's the part where Achilles proposes they should ask a prophet why Apollo is so angry with them. It's the last line in the paragraph above which I'm struggling with. I ...
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Od. X.86 ἐγγὺς γὰρ νυκτός τε καὶ ἤματός εἰσι κέλευθοι

What does it mean for the κέλευθοι (NB not κέλευθα!) of night and day to be near?

This (X.82-86) is an intriguing little section -- "there a man who could do without sleep could earn him double wages, one for herding the cattle, one for the silvery sheep" (Lattimore) -- but I just don't know what the special geographic properties of this place (Τηλέπυλος) are such that "the courses of night and day lie close ...

A New Companion to Homer

I just got my copy of A New Companion to Homer. All of the articles in it seem exciting. Is anyone familiar with it? Do you have any favorite essays?
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Poll: Iliad A11 οὕνεκα τὸν Χρύσην

I thought that we could take our next step in creating the definitive Textkit edition of Homer.
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μερόπων ἀνθρώπων

In my notes from Monro, μερόπων ἀνθρώπων is "a conventional epic word, the meaning of which is unknown" other than it refers to mankind.

The LSJ gives:

dividing the voice, i. e. articulate (cf. Hsch., Sch.11.1.250), “μ. ἄνθρωποι” Il. l.c., Hes.Op.109, etc.; “μ. βροτοί” 11.2.285; “μερόπεσσι λαοῖς” A.Supp.90 (lyr.): hence as Subst., = ἄνθρωποι, Musae.Fr.13 D., A.Ch.1018 (anap.), E.IT1263 (lyr.), A.R.4.536, Call.Fr.418, AP7.563 (Paul. Sil.); a usage satirized by Strato Com., 1.6 sq.

The LSJ ...
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Help needed for Hesiod-transcription (Latin)


I am again in need of your help in a matter of Greek/Latin. I am currently preparing (or rather finishing) a transcription of a translation of Hesiod's "Carmina" (Theogonia, Scutum Herculis, Opera et Dies). I have a single question concerning line 431 in Hesiod's Scutum Herculis:

The original (link to scanned page at Google-Books) says:
Hunc quidem dein reliquit Jovis ærumnosus filius:
ipse autem homicidam Martem accedentem observans,
sævum videns oculis, ut leo ...
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Ancient Laconian Doric Alphabet


I am looking for a table with all Laconian Doric alphabet letters and an english equivalent to every letter. The laconian I am referring to is the ancient Greek Doric Laconia spoken in Sparta.

All I was able to find are essays on the topic but nothing clear enough to get a clear idea. Does anybody know how to spell Sparta in Laconian Doric ? that would help too

All help is greatly appreciated. ...
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Parsing Od. VI.256-7 : nominative subject of an infinitive?

I'm wondering about the following:

255 "Ὄρσεο δὴ, νῦν, ξεῖνε, πόλινδ' ἴμεν, ὄφρα σε πέμψω
256 πατρὸς ἐμοῦ πρὸς δῶμα δαΐφρονος, ἔνθα σέ φημι
257 πάντων Φαιήκων εἰδησέμεν ὅσσοι ἄριστοι

I am having a bit of trouble understanding why ὅσσοι ἄριστοι is in the nominative, because it looks like the object of φημι is the whole infinitival phrase in line 257, and then σε in 256 is the object of εἰδησέμεν.

Does my question make ...
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West's edition of the Odyssey

Happily surprised to learn that Martin West's edition is scheduled for release later this year:


The amazon description is incorrect. A more accurate description here:

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Poll: Iliad 1.5 οἰωνοῖσί τε δαῖτα or οἰωνοῖσί τε πᾶσι?

What reading do you prefer in Iliad 1.5?

You can explain your reasons for your choice if you want in responses to this post, but don't feel obliged to do so.

You can also change your vote.

When this poll runs out of steam, we will continue to select variant readings one by one by poll, until we have a complete Iliad text. Then we move on to the Odyssey, and from there, Aeschylus' Agamemnon.


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