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frequency list

Is there a list available that shows how often Homer used a particular word?
It would help in determining how much effort to put into memorizing that word.
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Schoder Homeric Greek on E-Bay

I already own these, but for those searching for Raymond Schoder's out of print textbooks, the complete set, including the elusive volume 1, is currently on E-bay. See following link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=29306
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question about Homeric

How many written texts are there in Homeric? Is Homer the only recovered author who used this language, or are there other less-known writers?
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Interesting article on Studying Homer/ Recollection of Pharr

Some interesting homeric links:

Prof William Harris details his own approach to studying Homer: "the Old Idiosyncrat's Method for Starting Homer" and " New Approaches Reading for Iliad I:

http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris ... gomena.pdf

Former Vanderbilt student provides recollection of his most memorable professor (Clyde Pharr). Includes a photo of Pharr:

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/alumni/public ... #professor
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homeric texts

Has anyone used Raymond Schoder's A Reading Course in Homeric Greek? I will be studying Homer soon (I'd thought I would start next fall but decided not to wait that long) and would like to supplement Pharr with another Homeric text.

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Pharr Lesson IX Exercises

Since William's keys to Pharr on aoidoi.org skip the exercises for lesson 9, and since I hate not having feedback for exercises, I am posting my feeble attempts at translation here. Any constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks.


One general question: I noticed that in Pharr, the word for "fatherland" is listed as pa/trh, where your solutions always have it as though it is patrh/. For instance, for the genitive you use patrh=j, whereas Pharr ...
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oikhomai at Il. 1, 53

Look closely: at line 50 we have:

ou)rh=av m\en e)pwixeto kai\ ku/nav argou/v

& then next at line 53 we have

e)nnh=mar me/n a)na\ strato\n w)ixeto kh=la qeoio

In Samuel Butler's translation we have the following: "For nine whole days he shot his arrows among the people, but upon the tenth day Achilles called them in assembly", that's ok.

But think: epí + oikhomai (vv. 50)= visit with death, strike; while oikhomai alone means "to ...
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More new words

At what point did Homer start to repeat words instead of trying to use new ones?
I'm exaggerating of course, but at what point does the memory work start getting easier?
Throughout Pharr, the number of new words stays fairly constant compared to the number of lines of the Iliad. (This does not take into account the first 12 lessons where new words are introduced without getting into the Iliad.)
I was hoping to go ...
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ek in Iliad 1:204

Can some one explain what e)/k means in a)ll' e)/k toi e)re/w, to\ de\ kai\ tele/esqai o)i/w
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Pharr section 297 line 4

)Axilleu\j e)re/ei )Aqh/nh|, to\ de\ tetelesme/non e)/stai. o)i/w tau=ta tele/esqai.
In stilted English I think this means;

"Achilles will say to Athena, but that what has been fulfilled will be. I think these things will be fulfilled."

Is this an idiomatic was of saying; "What ever will be will be, so let it be"?
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