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odyssey 1.18

oud enqa pefugmenoj hen aeqlwn<br /><br />the translation says this is "not even there was he free from toils"<br /><br />I don't get it. :)<br /><br /><br /><br />pefugmenoj is "having fled", is it not?<br /><br />hm... maybe it is starting to make sense. <br />is it something to the effect of "not even there had he fled his troubles"?<br /><br />then glossed to "not even there ...
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Pharr p. 26

Hello, I'm new to the forum. I'm Going through Pharr on lesson 6 and I have run into several sentences using the accusative form for indirect objects which I thought should be dative. Here are two, numbers 1 and 6, but several of the sentences have this.<br /><br />1. a)glaa\ a)/poina fe/rousin )Acaioi\ ei\j strato\n.<br /><br />I'm wanting to translate this as "The Achaeans bear glorious ransoms through the encampment" but the strato\n is clearly ...
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Homeric Reading Group?

William Harris of Middlebury College told me that Textkit.com / aoidoi.com were in the process of forming a Homeric Reading Group. How is this coming along?
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Pharr section 143 - 6

I'm having a bit of trouble with this line.<br />o( qeo\j e)fiei\j e)xepeuke/a be/lea au)toi=sin ( )Axaioi=sin) e)/ballen<br />Without e)fiei\j this sentence would mean; The god was shooting sharp arrows at them (the Achaeans).<br />I am not sure what to do with e)fiei\j. The vocabulary section of the book says that it is a participle. It would have to be an aorist passive ( what happened to the theta?) The glosses given for e)fi/hmi are ...
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Pharr section 128 line 4

This line reads as follows: ei)/ pote kraiai/nei a)/nac e)e/ldwr i(erh=i, Danaoi\ ti/sousi da/krua ge/rontoj be/lessin qeou=. I think I know what this means but I would like to make sure that I am on the right path. I'll give my translation with the words in bold print being the ones that I am unsure of. Any comment will be appreciated.<br /><br />If at any time the Protector performs his will for the priest, the ...
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Pharr section 31 line 1

I am reviewing what I have learned so far and I got stuck at section 31 line 1 of Homeric Greek by Pharr.<br />a)ei/domen qea\n qala/sshj deinh=j klaggh=| pollh=| I am not sure about the correct translation of the dative of the last two words. Is it instrumental, as in - we sing with a great roar-? A roar does not seem a good discription for singing a song or chanting a chant. Is this ...
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Pharr para 107 line2

My question is concerning the subject of dhqu/nei in <br />)Agame/mnwn ou) kixh/setai geronta para\ koi/lh|si nhusi/n, ou) ga\r dhqu/nei e\n stratw|= )Axaiw=n <br />Agamemnon will not overtake the old man by the hollow(empty?) ships, for he did not loiter in the camp of the Achaeans.<br />If I take Agamemnon as the subject of both overtake and loiter, the sentence does not make sense. It would follow logically that he did not overtake him if ...
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Pharr para 102 line 4 & 5

Line 4 of paragraph 102 of Pharr reads gh=raj e)/sxen i(erh=a<br />I know what the individual words mean (I think) but I can't seem to make a sentence out of it.<br />gh=raj= nom. masc. sg. old age <br />e)/sxen aorist active indicative 3 rd. sg. he had<br />i(erh=a acc. masc sg. priest.<br />Old age had a priest. Does not make much sense.<br /><br />Line 5 gh=raj ou)x i(/keto basilh=i )Atrei/dh, e)/qane de\ kakw=j e)ni\ oi)/kw| ...
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The Chicago Homer

I thought I'd pass on this information as being of interest to those studying Homer and Homeric Greek. It looks very interesting.<br /><br />>An improved version of The Chicago Homer is now available at<br />>www.library.northwestern.edu/homer<br />><br />>The Chicago Homer is a bilingual database that uses the search and display<br />>capabilities of the digital surrogate to make distinctive features of Early<br />>Greek epic accessible to readers with and without Greek. In particular, the<br />>"digital page" of ...
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homeric formulas

hi guys,<br /><br />does anyone know where i could get a simple list of homeric formulas (grouped by length and case, eg masculine caesura to end: nominative; masculine caesura to end: genitive; &c &c).<br /><br />I saw a few random tables throughout Milman Parry's papers a few months ago in the Uni of Sydney library, but that book is never in anymore, and I don't have a library card there... Books in my uni's library ...
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