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Iliad:54

th|= deka/th| d' a)gorh/nde kale/ssato lao\n )Axilleu/j<br />In the footnotes it says that kale/ssato is causative.<br />In section 1069 of Pharr it says concerning verbs with a causative sense;... the subject causes something to be done by another.<br />I don't see how the verb in question fits this description.<br />Achilles is doing the summoning. (Unless he is a commander and has someone doing the calling for him, but that can't be deduced from the context ...
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Pharr 150 line 5

qea\ leukw/lenoj (/Hrh e)pi\ fresi\n e)/qhke th\n boulh\n )Axilh=i <br />I translate this line something like; The white-armed goddess Hera put this plan in Achilles' heart.<br /><br />(Is 'white-armed' a complimentary sort of adjective?)<br /><br />My question is, why is fresi\n Plural? <br /><br />Thanks.<br />Bert.
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Iliad, Book 1: Line 577,578 ?

577: mhtri d egw parafhmi, kai auth| per noeoush|,<br />578:patri filw| epi hra ferein Dii,..<br /><br />(Sorry about the accents, I could not get them to display correctly)<br /><br />Here's my translation but I'm sure it is wrong.<br /><br />577: mother I advise you, greatly considering understanding herself,<br />578: to bear the beloved father Zeus upon kindness...<br /><br />You can probably tell from my translation where I'm confused; heck I don't even know what my ...
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odyssey 1.18

oud enqa pefugmenoj hen aeqlwn<br /><br />the translation says this is "not even there was he free from toils"<br /><br />I don't get it. :)<br /><br /><br /><br />pefugmenoj is "having fled", is it not?<br /><br />hm... maybe it is starting to make sense. <br />is it something to the effect of "not even there had he fled his troubles"?<br /><br />then glossed to "not even there ...
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Pharr p. 26

Hello, I'm new to the forum. I'm Going through Pharr on lesson 6 and I have run into several sentences using the accusative form for indirect objects which I thought should be dative. Here are two, numbers 1 and 6, but several of the sentences have this.<br /><br />1. a)glaa\ a)/poina fe/rousin )Acaioi\ ei\j strato\n.<br /><br />I'm wanting to translate this as "The Achaeans bear glorious ransoms through the encampment" but the strato\n is clearly ...
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Homeric Reading Group?

William Harris of Middlebury College told me that Textkit.com / aoidoi.com were in the process of forming a Homeric Reading Group. How is this coming along?
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Pharr section 143 - 6

I'm having a bit of trouble with this line.<br />o( qeo\j e)fiei\j e)xepeuke/a be/lea au)toi=sin ( )Axaioi=sin) e)/ballen<br />Without e)fiei\j this sentence would mean; The god was shooting sharp arrows at them (the Achaeans).<br />I am not sure what to do with e)fiei\j. The vocabulary section of the book says that it is a participle. It would have to be an aorist passive ( what happened to the theta?) The glosses given for e)fi/hmi are ...
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Pharr section 128 line 4

This line reads as follows: ei)/ pote kraiai/nei a)/nac e)e/ldwr i(erh=i, Danaoi\ ti/sousi da/krua ge/rontoj be/lessin qeou=. I think I know what this means but I would like to make sure that I am on the right path. I'll give my translation with the words in bold print being the ones that I am unsure of. Any comment will be appreciated.<br /><br />If at any time the Protector performs his will for the priest, the ...
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Pharr section 31 line 1

I am reviewing what I have learned so far and I got stuck at section 31 line 1 of Homeric Greek by Pharr.<br />a)ei/domen qea\n qala/sshj deinh=j klaggh=| pollh=| I am not sure about the correct translation of the dative of the last two words. Is it instrumental, as in - we sing with a great roar-? A roar does not seem a good discription for singing a song or chanting a chant. Is this ...
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Pharr para 107 line2

My question is concerning the subject of dhqu/nei in <br />)Agame/mnwn ou) kixh/setai geronta para\ koi/lh|si nhusi/n, ou) ga\r dhqu/nei e\n stratw|= )Axaiw=n <br />Agamemnon will not overtake the old man by the hollow(empty?) ships, for he did not loiter in the camp of the Achaeans.<br />If I take Agamemnon as the subject of both overtake and loiter, the sentence does not make sense. It would follow logically that he did not overtake him if ...
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