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Iliad 1:78 b)

h)= ga\r o)i/omai a)/ndra xolwse/men, o(\j me/ga pa/ntwn.
Pharr in section 1107-6 says (in part) "The subject of an infinitive is usually in the accusative, but may be omitted when it is the subject of the leading verb,..... "

Is this what is happening here? Ie; is the one who is doing the thinking also the subject of xolwse/men (I think I am about to anger the man, who rules....) Or is a)/ndra the subject ...
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Iliad 1:78 a)

h)= ga\r o)i/omai a)/ndra xolwse/men, o(\j me/ga pa/ntwn

Is o)i/omai middle of o)i/w? and if so, does that make its meaning -I am thinking to myself-?
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Iliad 1:85

qarsh/saj ma/la ei)pe\ qeopro/pion, o(/ti oi)=sqa
I don't understand the form of the first and the last word.
The first looks like an aorist indicative 2nd person sg. with the augment dropped of, but this does not fit in the sentence very well (you took heart..). The context seems to indicate an imperative (Take heart...).
???


The last word, according to the vocabulary section of Pharr is a perf. 2nd sg of ei)/dw. I thought ...
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Homeric Dictionary - is it worth it?

I'm reading the Iliad using the LSJ lexicon, however I read on Amazon about the homeric dictionary and some people reported you can read Homer about twice as fast compared to using a regular lexicon. Has anybody used it and can recommend it? Does it have help with odd,unusual forms?
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Iliad 1:64-69

I am having considerable difficulty with lines 65 and 68.
I will write out line 64-69

o(/j k' e)/poi, o(/ti to/sson e)xw/sato Foi=boj )Apo/llwn,
ei)/ t' a)r' o(/ g' eu)xwlh=j e)pime/mfetai ei)/ q' e(kato/mbhj,
a)/ ke/n pwj a)rnw=n kni/shj ai)gwn te telei/wn
bou/letai a)ntia/saj h(mi=n a)po\ loigo\on a)mu=nai."
h)= toi o(/ g' w(=j eipw\n kat' a)/r' e(/zeto, toi=si d' a)ve/sth
Ka/lxaj Qestori/dhj, oi)wnopo/olwn o)/x' a)/ristoj,


who may tell why the glorious Apollo is angered ...
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Iliad 1:59 and 60

)Atrei/dh, nu=n a)/mme pa/lin plagxqe/ntaj o)i/w
a)\y a)ponosth/sein, ei)/ ken qa/nato/n ge fu/goimen,
I am having trouble translating these lines using the accusative of a)/mme I think the meaning is -" Son of Atreus, now, we have been beaten back again, I think we shall return home, if indeed we are to escape death".
Or maybe like this-" Son of Atreus, now, I think having been beaten back again we shall return home, if indeed ...
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Iliad 3:391-396

I have a couple questions about this passage:<br /><br />(Caution: Spoilers for those who may want to read the Iliad and not know what happens in advance)<br /><br />The context: Aphrodite has just snatched Paris out of his one on one battle with Meneleaus where he was getting creamed. She drops him in his bedroom and goes to Helen and summons her to come to him and also says..<br /><br />392   .... ou)de/ ke fai/hs   <br />393      a)ndri\ ...
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Iliad 1:63

The second half of Iliad 1:63 reads kai\ ga/r t' o)/nar e(k Dio/j e)stin,<br />- for also a dream is from Zeus,-<br />I don't understand why there is a KAI and a TE in this line.<br />It is hard to translate both words. Something like this may be possible - for even a dream is from Zeus too,-<br />Is this more or less the force of these two words in this line?<br />Thank you.<br />Bert.
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Advice on Reading Homer?

What is the most efficient way to learn to read Homer fluently given a decent knowledge of greek grammar, a lexicon, a grammar, and the Loeb text(& translation) of the Iliad?<br /><br /><br />My goal is to read the entire Iliad. I went through Pharr's book, and now I'm tackling chapter 2 on my own with the LSJ lexicon and the side by side Loeb text. (I'm at line 389) At first, I started writing ...
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Iliad:54

th|= deka/th| d' a)gorh/nde kale/ssato lao\n )Axilleu/j<br />In the footnotes it says that kale/ssato is causative.<br />In section 1069 of Pharr it says concerning verbs with a causative sense;... the subject causes something to be done by another.<br />I don't see how the verb in question fits this description.<br />Achilles is doing the summoning. (Unless he is a commander and has someone doing the calling for him, but that can't be deduced from the context ...
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