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Iliad 2:200-201

a)/llwn mu=qon a)/koue*,
oi(\ se/o* fe/rteroi*/ ei)si,

I don't understand how the translations (on Perseus) I checked come up with; 'listen to the word of others who are better than you.'
I came up with; 'listen to the word of others, they are better than you.'
In order for it to mean listen to those who are better than you oi(\ fe/rteroi would have to be in the dative. (or accusative -> obey ...
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eorgas / eeipen


According to Munro, e)orgaj < "weworgas". Presumably this (like leloipa is a perfect formation? In the context (Iliad III.57) it would work fairly well as a stative.


Though I see it all the time, I'm still not sure what's going on here. I thought the stem was "wep", so an aorist formation would be ewep- > eip (as in Attic?). Whence then has come the extra epsilon?

thanks as ever
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Iliad 2:195

mh/ ti xolwsa/menoj r(e/ch| kako\n ui(=aj )Axaiw=n.
I understand every word but I am not sure about which word belongs to which.
Does mh/ belong to ti (not anything) or to the participle (not angering) or the the finite verb (not doing).
Does ti belong to kako/n (something evil)?
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Pharr-c open to accept members.

Chad already mentioned to send Paul your information so that he can start issueing login IDs and passwords.
http://www.textkit.com/groups/pharr/session-c.php is a link to the page describing how to join, plus it has some introductory information and a schedule for the fist few weeks.
Ps. There is a limit to the number of members so don't wait to long.

One more thing. Please post a message to this thread stating ...
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New Pharr group looking for members.

As you can see in the "Want to be a Pharr guide anyone?" thread, Chad has offered to help with the English to Greek exercises and I am willing to do the Greek to English assignments.
All we need now is a number of members.
Anyone who wants to join a Pharr group please "apply" here.
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How do i begin?

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Want to be a Pharr guide anyone?

Some Textkitters have expressed some interest in starting another Pharr reading group.
The problem is that the more or less regular guides are going to suffer from burn-out if they were to get roped in to leading yet another group.
I am a "graduate" of the Pharr-a group. That does not necessarily qualify me to be a guide, but I think I would be able to do the work of a quide assistant. (I would ...
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In cunlliffe's lexicon, in the entry u(pe/r it says [in form comp. fr. u(po/]
Does this really mean that the one is (or was) a comparative form of the other?
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Iliad 2:35

I can't figure out what au)tou= means in to\n d' e)/lip' au)tou=
First I thought it was genitive because of the verb, took leave of him, but then to/n is left out so I decided against that.
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Time for new topics

Well, it seem to be easy to read Homer.
I really need some help with homeric verbs. Which way?
Well, there are known two endings for verbs (primary and secondary) in each voices. The problem I meet is, ¿What about pluscuamperfect form? I didn´'t see that endings anyway!?

On the other hand, it's a grat pleasure to read Homer. Really fantastic.
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