News of Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry

Hi all,

Since the Pharr-b group is on its way to the last 100 lines of Iliad book 1, I am already searching for a commentary to the following books.

Can anyone perhaps give info on the value of this one:

The Iliad: A Commentary: Volume 1, Books 1-4: Bks.1-4 Vol 1
G. S. Kirk (Editor)

Apparently the Greek text is not included, but that's no problem. I am curious to know if it gives ...

Hi everybody; I've been sudying Homeric Greek through Pharr's book and finding it pretty enjoyable and challenging.

I've been also trying to recite Homer using pitch accent. I read this article : http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/Classics/Greekaccents.html which suggests using a Fifth, and went on practicing with a guitar :wink: . Then just after I got the tone right I realised that something was not sounding quite well, I mean, it ...

the verse goes as follows:

alla ta g' asparta kai anErota panta fuontai (E = long e)

I see no othe possibility than to read the -a in asparta as long, so as to fit the hexametre.

but this is odd.
firstly because the word is written as proparoxytone: a/sparta, while it sould have been *aspa/rta, had the -a been long
secondly, the -a ending for neuter plural in Greek is *always* short. it doesn't ...

What exactly is the genetive absolute?

I've read my Pharr book and the relevant parts in Smyth, but I still can't really figure it out. Could someone show me some (using words from lesson 21 or earlier from the Pharr book) examples of this construction and why it would be used?

I appreciate it. Thank you.

[This is an email I was going to send to a friend, but realized that it might be better served being posted here since it could help people realize the importance and *meaning* of the principal part. The "verb grinder" in question is: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~psilord/verb/test.html
It'll work if you have firefox and is in alpha stages (and this version is far older in code development and data specification than the version I have on my box ...

Going great with Pharr... fourteen lessons done and it seems like each is actually getting easier. I've picked up the pace to a lesson a day and the extra momentum is helping. It's not too fast to learn the vocabulary or grammar soundly, and it's not so slow as to kill the motivation and get out of mental shape (going too slowly gives me difficulty with syntax and forms and a blunted memory). But two ...

Hi everyone,

Are there any major differences between the edition of Pharr's Homeric Greek that is available here and the one that is available on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0806119373/qid=1134752126/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-6762146-3026335?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)? Is one better than the other? I'm trying to find a copy of Pharr in print, and the one on Amazon seems like the only one that is available. Thanks!

On Pharr page 4:
κᾱλαὶ βουλαὶ ἦσαν φίλαι
and
δεινὴ κλαγγὴ ἦν ἐν Χρύσῃ κᾱλῃ
why graves here?

The phrases po/tnia mh/thr and po/tnia Dhw/ are very frequent. When used like this, is po/tnia an adjective, meaning "revered, august", or a substantive, like "Lady Mother" or "Lady Demeter"? I'm leaning toward the adjective. Is there a good way to tell?

In line 3, eu)ru/opa (which I would like to think of as "far-seeing") is noted by Richardson to mean "with far-reaching voice". He cites Chantraine GH v1 200. I would very much appreciate ...

I was informed only very recently of another reason that learning the rules of accenting can be helpful: it can sometimes indicate an augment.

Here are three instances from the Hymn to Demeter:

Line 25, a)/i+en, impf.act.ind.3rd.sg. of a)i/w.

Line 38, h)/xhsan, aor.act.ind.3rd.pl. of h)xe/w.

Line 95, gi/nwske, impf.act.ind.3rd.sg. of ginw/skw.


Are these all instances of augmentation, or does the accent move for other reasons? I suspect the first two examples are augmented, although I ...