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Word Frequency in Homer

My conversation with Junya has given me an idea for my own use. Is there any source out there with a list of the most commonly used words in Homer, most commonly used words first? I know that the Chicago Homer has word counts, but I'm looking for already compiled statistics.
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Iliad A160

πρὸς Τρώων· τῶν οὔ τι μετατρέπ οὐδ' ἀλεγίζεις,

The 4th meter ends in a long vowel, followed by the first syllable of the next meter that begins with a vowel.
Is it squeezed into a short syllable for the meter's sake? Or is the half of its length absorbed by the next syllable?
I couldn't find the exact reference to this case in Pharr.
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Consonantal Assimilation

With the verb δέχομαι, the aorist indicative middle, 1st person singular is given by Pharr as ἐδέγμην. I'm not great with athematic aorists, and I'm not sure about the consonantal rules. Is the following anywhere close to correct?

Singular 1st ἐδέγ-μην -> ἔδέγμην
2nd ἔδεγ-(σ)ο -> ἔδεγο, ἔδεξο ;γ in ἔδεγσο becomes κ by partial assimilation to σ, then κσ becomes ξ.
3rd ἔδεγ-το -> ἔδέκτο ;γ becomes κ by partial assimilation to τ.

Dual ...
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Infinitive Passive

Pharr lists the infinitive passive of λύω as λυθῆναι or λυθήμεναι. He gives a clue that this is the aorist infinitive passive in another section, but I want verification, since these words don't have the -α-, in place of the thematic -ε-, that seems to be typical of 1st aorists. Thanks in advance.

Added "1st". :oops:
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Augments and Lost Consonants

In Pharr 835 & 836, he writes:

835. Verbs beginning with a vowel formerly proceded by a lost consonant (usually F , or σ), may take the syllabic instead of the temporal augment, as ἑάνδανον, imperfect of ἁνδάνω (σFανδανω) please.

836. When initial σ has thus been lost, the augment always contracts with the first vowel of the stem, according to the rules (584-5); when the initial F has been lost, contraction may or may ...
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2nd Aorist Indicative Middle of ἄγω

Pharr lists the 2nd aorist indicative active, 1st person singular of ἄγω as ἤγαγον. Does this make the 2nd aorist indicative middle, 1st person singular ἠγαγόμην?
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The Vocative Singular of βασιλεύς...

...is βασιλεῦ. Why the circumflex? I don't find a rule in Pharr that covers this. Is there such a rule, or is this one of those things you just have to memorize?
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Prosody Questions

Do elided vowels still count with respect to scansion? For instance:

(D)πολλὰς δ' | (S)ἰφθί | (S)μους ψῡ | (S)χὰς Ἄι | (D)δι προΐ | (S)αψεν

I use (D) to indicate that the foot is a dactyl, and (S) a spondee, since using macrons, breves and bars on the line above might not line up properly depending on the reader's font. I assumed the first foot, with δὲ elided to δ', is a dactyl, and ...
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Lesson IV, Eng. to Gr. translation

Thet have many plans, but (they are) cowardly (ones).

The first part of the sentence above is easy enough: πολλὰς βουλὰς ἔχουσιν. It's the second part that I'm not too sure. Because we are told not to translate the words in parentheses, should I treat it as a simple sentence instead of a compound sentence? Paul, in his answer key (www.greekgeek.org), ...
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Lesson IV, typo?

Is this a typo?

Section 554: The enclitics are:

1)...4) The present indicative of εἰμί be, and of φημί say (except . . . and possibly the second singular φῄς of φημί).

Should it not be φής instead of φῄς ( the latter being in the subjunctive, not the indicative mood)?
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