Textkit Logo

It is currently Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:41 am

News News of Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry

Site map of Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry » Forum : Homeric Greek and Early Greek Poetry

Are you reading Homeric Greek? Whether you are a total beginner or an advanced Homerist, here you can meet kindred spirits. Beside Homer, use this board for all things early Greek poetry.

Hi-resolution copy of Pharr

On the download page for Homeric Greek, there's a mention at the bottom of a high-resolution printer-friendly version of the text. It says:

"Please Note: A high resolution, 16.5 MB, printer friendly format is also available for download."

There's no link to said format, and I was wondering if someone knew where it could be downloaded. I've got someone who's asking for that version before we start the study.

Thanks,
Jason
Read more : Hi-resolution copy of Pharr | Views : 4879 | Replies : 7


Similarities between Homeric and Koine

I notice in reading the introduction to Attic provided in Pharr's text (I'm looking specifically at §465 on page 201 now) that there are some morphological phenomena that were pulled from Homeric into the Koine, while others came instead from Attic. Specifically, I notice that ε + υ in contraction in the Koine follows Attic and becomes ου, while in Homeric it becomes ευ (§461).

However, like Homeric, the Koine has ...
Read more : Similarities between Homeric and Koine | Views : 2344 | Replies : 1


Question about Collations

In lesson 3 (§8), one of the assignments given is:

2) the declension of βουλή, καλὴ βουλή (659-662), and
write out the declension of κλαγγή and Χρύση.


As far as collation goes, would we just ignore this and expect that we would do this individually? I mean, it's not quite possible to collate entire noun declensions and verb conjugations, is it?

Or, could we ask that everyone post their answers into a thread here on ...
Read more : Question about Collations | Views : 2440 | Replies : 2


Possible Group Study?

Is anyone interested in putting together a group study of Pharr's book (the version provided here on the site)? I have begun to look at it and am quite interested in pursuing Homeric Greek. I studied three years of κοινή in college about 9 years ago now, so I'm quite rusty on that (not one who sits around reading the New Testament too much -- when I do read it, I read it in Hebrew, ...
Read more : Possible Group Study? | Views : 3081 | Replies : 3


A Reading Course in Homeric Greek (and some other ?'s)

Hello everyone. I am new to Greek though I have been wanting to learn it for a little while now. For one reason or another I have not been able to take it at my school and the Classics chair literally said it is impossible to learn on my own. Well, he had me down for a while but I keep hearing about people learning on their own. Anyway, I recently started on A Reading ...
Read more : A Reading Course in Homeric Greek (and some other ?'s) | Views : 3976 | Replies : 5


Word Frequency in Homer

My conversation with Junya has given me an idea for my own use. Is there any source out there with a list of the most commonly used words in Homer, most commonly used words first? I know that the Chicago Homer has word counts, but I'm looking for already compiled statistics.
Read more : Word Frequency in Homer | Views : 11490 | Replies : 8


Iliad A160

πρὸς Τρώων· τῶν οὔ τι μετατρέπ οὐδ' ἀλεγίζεις,

The 4th meter ends in a long vowel, followed by the first syllable of the next meter that begins with a vowel.
Is it squeezed into a short syllable for the meter's sake? Or is the half of its length absorbed by the next syllable?
I couldn't find the exact reference to this case in Pharr.
Read more : Iliad A160 | Views : 2731 | Replies : 4


Consonantal Assimilation

With the verb δέχομαι, the aorist indicative middle, 1st person singular is given by Pharr as ἐδέγμην. I'm not great with athematic aorists, and I'm not sure about the consonantal rules. Is the following anywhere close to correct?

Singular 1st ἐδέγ-μην -> ἔδέγμην
2nd ἔδεγ-(σ)ο -> ἔδεγο, ἔδεξο ;γ in ἔδεγσο becomes κ by partial assimilation to σ, then κσ becomes ξ.
3rd ἔδεγ-το -> ἔδέκτο ;γ becomes κ by partial assimilation to τ.

Dual ...
Read more : Consonantal Assimilation | Views : 2691 | Replies : 2


Infinitive Passive

Pharr lists the infinitive passive of λύω as λυθῆναι or λυθήμεναι. He gives a clue that this is the aorist infinitive passive in another section, but I want verification, since these words don't have the -α-, in place of the thematic -ε-, that seems to be typical of 1st aorists. Thanks in advance.

Added "1st". :oops:
Read more : Infinitive Passive | Views : 4194 | Replies : 5


Augments and Lost Consonants

In Pharr 835 & 836, he writes:

835. Verbs beginning with a vowel formerly proceded by a lost consonant (usually F , or σ), may take the syllabic instead of the temporal augment, as ἑάνδανον, imperfect of ἁνδάνω (σFανδανω) please.

836. When initial σ has thus been lost, the augment always contracts with the first vowel of the stem, according to the rules (584-5); when the initial F has been lost, contraction may or may ...
Read more : Augments and Lost Consonants | Views : 2049 | Replies : 1


 

Login  •  Register


Statistics

Total posts 126972 • Total topics 15781 • Total members 4240