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About νῦν in Od. 6. 149

γουνοῦμαι σε ἄνασσα· θεὸς νύ τις ἦ βροτός ἐσσι·
(Odyssey 6. 149)

I don't understand the which is the function of νῦν here. I have already read the whole entry of perseus for νῦν, but it didn't help. I only found the following uses of νῦν, that perhaps apply to my case, although I don't see how yet:

2. in Ep. mostly as a particle of emphasis, “ἧκε δ᾽ ἐπ᾽ Ἀργείοισι κακὸν βέλος: οἱ ...
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Accentuation of περι

The other thread brought to my mind another fascinating accent question I recently ran into. It concerns the accentuation of περι in Epic when it's used as an adverb with the meaning "exceedingly".

LSJ, περί E.II.1. says it "commonly suffers anastrophe", e.g. Τυδεΐδη, πέρι μέν σε τίον Δαναοί Il.8.161. This and the examples in Homer that LSJ gives in this section are, however, accented περί in the edition that TLG provides, as well as in ...
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Some doubts with Odyssey 6.99-114

αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ σίτου τάρφθεν δμῳαί τε καὶ αὐτή,

Why is the passive voice used here, instead of the middle?

πασάων δ᾽ ὑπὲρ ἥ γε κάρη ἔχει ἠδὲ μέτωπα,

S&H says that κάρη and μέτωπα are accusatives of specification. Could not be just direct objects of ἔχει?
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Od. 6, 79: scansion doubt

Could some one help me to scan this verse?

δῶκεν δὲ χρυσέηι ἐν ληκύθωι ὑγρὸν ἔλαιον

Here is my best try:
δω̄κε̄ν | δε̄ χρῠσε̆|η̄ι || ε̄ν | λη̄κῡ|θω̄ι ῡγ|ρο̄ν ε̄|λαῑο̄ν

There is only one dactyl, is it right?

S&H says that there is a synizesis in χρυσέῃ. But why is the the first syllable of ἔλαιον long (if it is)?.
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Aorists in Od. 9.98-99

Od. 9.98-99:
τοὺς μὲν ἐγὼν ἐπὶ νῆας ἄγον κλαίοντας ἀνάγκῃ,
νηυσὶ δ᾽ ἐνὶ γλαφυρῇσιν ὑπὸ ζυγὰ δῆσα ἐρύσσας.

Do you think it's possible to take δῆσα and ἐρύσσας as "causative" aorists, like sigmatic aorists sometimes are, i.e. not to translate "I drew them beneath the benches and bound them" but instead "I had them drawn beneath the benches and had them bound."

I consulted a number of translations and commentaries, and none agrees with this ...
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Question about γάρ

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ὣς ἔφατ'· αἴδετο γὰρ θαλερὸν γάμον ἐξονομῆναι
πατρὶ φίλῳ· ὁ δὲ πάντα νόει καὶ ἀμείβετο μύθῳ·

(Odyssey 6, 66-67)

Why is the particle γὰρ used here? I understand that she blushed, because she mentioned marriage to his father, but why is this fact a cause of the previous clause "ὥς ἔφατο"?
I mean, I would understand: "she stopped speaking, for she blushed...", but it says "she spoke, for she blushed...". Is there something wrong with ...
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The Catalogue of Ships

Standing near to the beginning of the Iliad, the Catalogue announces that this is a pan-Hellenic poem, embracing the traditions of the entire Greek community. For Greeks in the archaic period, and throughout antiquity and into modern times, the Catalogue's progress through the Greece of the Heroic Age would have been a stirring evocation of their heritage. Especially In performance, but even in reading, the hypnotic repetitiousness itself must have contributed to the cumulative power ...
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Iliad II, 394-397

Which interpretation to choose when the commentaries do not agree.

ὣς ἔφατ᾽, Ἀργεῖοι δὲ μέγ᾽ ἴαχον ὡς ὅτε κῦμα
395ἀκτῇ ἐφ᾽ ὑψηλῇ, ὅτε κινήσῃ Νότος ἐλθών,
προβλῆτι σκοπέλῳ: τὸν δ᾽ οὔ ποτε κύματα λείπει
παντοίων ἀνέμων, ὅτ᾽ ἂν ἔνθ᾽ ἢ ἔνθα γένωνται.

The problem is in the last one and a half line: τὸν δ᾽ οὔ ποτε κύματα λείπει
παντοίων ἀνέμων, ὅτ᾽ ἂν ἔνθ᾽ ἢ ἔνθα γένωνται.

Ameis and Brenner think παντοίων ἀνέμων is an ...
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πάρος + present tense

Hello everybody, could any one explain me why is the present tense used here?

καὶ λίην σε πάρος γ' οὐτ' εἴρομαι οὔτε μετάλλῶ,
ἀλλὰ μάλ' εὔκηλος τὰ φράζεαι, ἅσσ' ἐθέλῃσθα
(Iliad I. 553)

I understand that she says that she have never before (πάρος) neither ask nor inquire him, but he (always?) does what he wants to. If this is correct, why is not some past tense used instead of εἴρομαι/μετάλλῶ? Pharr has not made ...
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Iliad II, 73-75

Agamemnon speaking to his council:

πρῶτα δ᾽ ἐγὼν ἔπεσιν πειρήσομαι, ἣ θέμις ἐστί,
καὶ φεύγειν σὺν νηυσὶ πολυκλήϊσι κελεύσω:
ὑμεῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοθεν ἄλλος ἐρητύειν ἐπέεσσιν.

Quite a remarkable plan, to put it lightly. Is this a kind of trope or is this Homer depicting Agamemnon as a not very intelligent leader? Nestors' respons a few lines further on seems to point to the second possibility. He is uncharacteristically brief and blunt and says something like: ...
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