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Oxford Book of Greek Verse 97, Tyrtaeus

Oxford Book of Greek Verse 97. "How can Man die better?" Tyrtaeus (fl. 685-668 B.C.)

I'll translate the first part of this poem in this first post, to the best of my ability, and continue on with the rest in separate posts to this thread. No special reason, except that I wanted to spend more time with poetry, and the Oxford Book of Greek Verse is a nice place to find random good pieces. I'm ...
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Can θεὸς be feminine?

I'm trying to understand this verse (Odyssey 10:136):

Κίρκη ἐϋπλόκαμος, δεινὴ θεὸς αὐδήεσσα

The translation I'm looking at says δεινὴ θεὸς αὐδήεσσα means "a clever goddess, possessing human speech". Another translation says, "dread goddess of human speech".

But how do they get that? Why is it θεὸς and not θεά?
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Toward a catalogue of ships in Linear B

I'm looking for feedback on a project to take Linear B beyond the material evidence. Before extending the exercise to include epitaphs and formulaic phrases I'm asking myself is this wasted effort? The premise is that if Linear B is Greek it can be extended to write poetry and history. All that's needed is more and better words.

https://www.academia.edu/37181223/Linear_B_-_Towards_a_Catalogue_of_Ships_in_an_excursion_beyond_the_evidence

I've just read Rob Wiseman's paper 'A Mycenaean Iliad' and am in awe of the exquisite ...
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bT sch. on E.166

Dear Homerists: I have a somewhat trifling question on another Iliadic scholion. As Diomedes works havoc among the Trojan ranks during his aristeia, Aeneas goes to find Pandarus (E.166ff.), now rather gloomy (esp. E.212-16) after realizing that he’s failed at the bow yet again. He initially responds to Aeneas with his lengthy, despondent speech about how he left his chariots at home. An exegetical sch. on Ε.166 reads:

(166a)   τὸν δ’ ἴδεν Αἰνείας: τὸ ὁμοειδές ...
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Earliest text of the Odyssey?

https://www.culture.gr/el/Information/S ... x?nID=2302

Εύρεση πήλινης πλάκας στην περιοχή της Ολυμπίας, η οποία διασώζει 13 στίχους της ξ Ραψωδίας της Οδύσσειας

​Κατά την διεξαγωγή της επιφανειακής - γεωαρχαιολογικής έρευνας, στο πλαίσιο του τριετούς ερευνητικού προγράμματος με τίτλο «Ο πολυδιάστατος χώρος της Ολυμπίας», που πραγματοποιείται σε θέσεις γύρω από το ιερό υπό τη διεύθυνση της Δρ. Ερωφίλης-Ίριδας Κόλια, Προϊσταμένης της ΕΦΑ Ηλείας σε συνεργασία με τους καθηγητές Franziska Lang, Birgitta Eder, ...
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West's Making of the Odyssey Reviewed at BMCR

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2018/2018-06-39.html

Barry P. Powell reviews West's making of the Odyssey and is highly critical of West's theories. But while I'm sympathetic with Powell's viewpoint, he hasn't really taken the time to provide detailed support for his argument. His suggestion of West's ignorance is laughable:

seems unaware that the Greek alphabet was a very odd form of writing unprecedented in its attention to phonetic accuracy, which can more plausibly ...
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Did the name Δαναοί used to have another consonant?

Is there internal evidence in Greek that the name Δαναοί used to have another consonant before the ending? I.e. Δανα?οί

Is this the correct form of the hieroglyph of the name of the land of the Δαναοί (Tinay).

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In Cline's 2011 article on the Aegean people (page 8 ), it is not the clearest part of the picture.

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Pharr Lesson XXXII

Back in college, some 47 years ago, I took 2 semesters of Homeric Greek using Clyde Pharr's Homeric Greek as my text. I kept the book in hopes of completing it someday. Now that I've retired, that day has come! I have started from scratch and am now up to lesson XXXII, learning the regular -μι verbs. For the first 52 lessons, there are translation exercises, Greek to English and vice versa and I've been ...
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Nonnus Paraphrase of the Gospel of John

An earlier post by chalimac, Works in Homeric Greek not by Homer viewtopic.php?f=22&t=59669&p=153700&hilit=argonautica#p153700, lists a paraphrase by Nonnus of the Gospel of John, but the link is dead. Here is a working link: http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/0 ... R.pdf.html
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Anyone interested in a Greek reading group for the Odyssey

I haven't been able to find an active one yet. Just getting started again after a loooong hiatus...anyone want to join me?
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