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Recommended editions of the Iliad and Odyssey?

Χαίρετε πάντες,

I'm just about finished with a two-semester college Greek course and am hoping to get more into some real texts soon. I've already read Pamela Ann Draper's annotated edition of Book 1 of the Iliad and would like to continue reading the poem in Greek (picked up some other student editions but none really kept my interest as much as the Iliad,) though I've been having some trouble finding a complete edition. I ...
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Help to translate

Dear all,

Cause I have just begun ancient Greek self-study, so I got some puzzled, please kindly help me a little bit
. I learn the book A reading course in Homeric Greek of Raymond Schoder. I tried many times but still not get the meaning of this below proverb:

ομοιον εστιν ομοιω φιλον

My word analysis is as below

ομοιoν = acc, like to - similar to
εστιν = verb, be
ομοιω = ...
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Homeric Receptions

Paul Derouda wrote:I'm pretty much in agreement with Ahab that we should try to understand Homer as much as possible in his own context. But perhaps there is a paradox - perhaps this modern approach in itself, this idea of "objectivity", is a form of cultural appropriation, only one typical of the "scientific age"?


Interesting comment. However, I don't think "objectivity" or "scientific" is an accurate description of my approach to understanding Homer. Haven't all readers ...
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Iliad17, 3-6/ Homeric similes

At the beginning of book 17 Menelaus fights for the corpse and armour of Patroclus, slain by Hector.

βῆ δὲ διὰ προμάχων κεκορυθμένος αἴθοπι χαλκῷ,
ἀμφὶ δʼ ἄρʼ αὐτῷ βαῖνʼ ὥς τις περὶ πόρτακι μήτηρ
πρωτοτόκος κινυρὴ οὐ πρὶν εἰδυῖα τόκοιο·
ὣς περὶ Πατρόκλῳ βαῖνε ξανθὸς Μενέλαος.

Though it's a relatively short simile (for Homer at least) I think it is one of the more striking and even touching I've read so far. Another favourite ...
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Iliad16 and interpolations

Right at the end of book 16 is a longish passage (790-804) that describes how Apollo strips Patroclus of his armour. Ameis brackets this entire passage because of its inconsistency with the struggle for Patroclus' armour in book 17. Several questions come to mind:

-do modern commentators still hold the same view?
-why would these lines have been added to the text; I mean what is the surplus value of having Patroclus stripped after having ...
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Vocabulary

After nearly sixteen books of the Iliad my reading speed has improved dramatically (as well it should after many thousands of hexameters). What's slowing me now is mostly vocabulary and unusual/ irregular forms of verbs. But most of all vocabulary. Even after so many pages there are still many, many words I don't know the meaning of, often several in one sentence. That's frustrating. Lately I have begun to jot them down and put them ...
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ἁνδάνω

Question on morphology: εὔαδε is the second aorist of ἁνδάνω. Why dit it lose its spiritus asper? My dictionnary tells me εὔαδε is derived from ἔσϝαδε. ἁνδάνω apparently has ϝανδ as stem. Does the loss of the diggamma has anything to do with this (though I can't figure out how)?
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Did the gods speak Greek?

I'm reading book 14; the story of Hera seducing Zeus is a delightful interlude (I'ld almost say comic relief, but the gods are no laughing matter) to the grim battles of the preceding books. The dressing scene is lovely and a good reminder of how much vocabulary I still have to master and I chuckled at the (no doubt anachronistic) image of Zeus and Hera as two love sick teenagers outfoxing their parents:

ὡς δʼ ...
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ἐριβρεμέτης

I came across this: Ζηνὸς ἐριβρεμέτεω
ἐριβρεμέτεω is masc genitive from ἐριβρεμέτης. So, why isn't it ἐριβρεμέτεος? I have the feeling I'm missing something obvious here, but can't figure out what.
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Aeneas & Priamus

Iliad 13, 459-461
βῆναι ἐπʼ Αἰνείαν· τὸν δʼ ὕστατον εὗρεν ὁμίλου
ἑσταότʼ· αἰεὶ γὰρ Πριάμῳ ἐπεμήνιε δίῳ
οὕνεκʼ ἄρʼ ἐσθλὸν ἐόντα μετʼ ἀνδράσιν οὔ τι τίεσκεν.

So, what's going on between Aeneas and Priamus? Ameis mentions rivalry. Is something more to be said about this, some other source than Homer for instance?
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