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Moreland & Fleisher: too tough?

Wow. It's been almost a year since somebody last posted a topic on this Moreland & Fleisher board! It seems that this textbook isn't anywhere near as popular as Wheelock's based upon the infrequent activity on this discussion forum.

Anyway, myself having just finished reading M&F for the first time, I'm not surprised that most would prefer using Wheelock's over M&F. My impression is that M&F attempts to package everything there is to know about ...
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quis superavit? Capitulum X

Quanta maxime poterat ui superauit.

quanta is abl. presumably in concordance with ui, right?

After reading about Syra and her story about Theseus, I decided to do some of M'n'F, starting where I left off. Maybe it's just the lack of context that's throwing me off, but it seems to me that superauit should be superauisse or there should be a relative pronoun or something.. and a question mark.

with how much force most greatly ...
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pro dolor! di boni! o tempora, o mores!

metuo ne quis hoc in foro uersetur. desertum locumque ignis ac mortis iam fit! utinam quisquis Latinae studet hic ueniat saluumque faciat!

-david
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M, Fque ch. 8

First of all... I never noticed this forum before. :oops: for shame.

anyway, I have just a few questions to ask of ye venerable textkittens, textfeles and textleones.

#26 - Helena, specie pulchra, salutem petebat iens longe sub luna per oppidum ardens. incolentibus oppidum neque spes erat neque fructus. Di superi prima luce...
to the inhabitants, the city was neither a hope nor an enjoyment? how can ...
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Possible translation

From M+F Unit Two drill:

Si taedam nautae dederit, portam videbo.

The "dederit" could be either future perfect or perfect subjunctive.

I opted for perfect subjunctive which would translate to:

1) If he had given the torch to the sailor, I will see the gate.

This sounds more logical than with the future perfect:

2) If he will have given the torch to the sailor, I will see the gate.

Does 1) make more sense ...
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Unit Two Tenses

Going through unit two which introduces the perfect, pluperfect and future perfect, as well as the subjunctive, I just wanted to stop for a second and make sure I got the ideas right in my mind:

Sum nauta. I am a sailor.
Ero nauta. I will be a sailor.
Eram nauta. I used to be a sailor.
Fui nauta. I was a sailor.

Fueram nauta. I had been a sailor.
Fuero nauta. I will have ...
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various editions of M + F

Salvete omnes:

I am wondering about the (two?) editions of the book. The first edition (1974, ISBN 0520027477) seems pretty pricey, as used copies appear to be going for $98.01 on Amazon. I assume it is out of print. The 1977 edition (ISBN 0520031830) is far cheaper at $14. Are there vast differences between the editions, and is one preferred to the other by most on the list?
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Et as adverb

In the Unit One notes, M&F state that when used as an adverb, 'et' means 'even'.

So,

Et reginas poenas dabat. Even the queen was paying the penalty.

I must be missing something here, but, outside of context perhaps, what would prevent this from meaning And the queen was paying the penalty?
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units 5, 6, 7 - doubts

Ok, so I'm here at unit seven, almost finishing it, and I have collected some doubts since unit five, for which I really really hope you guys can help me, since i've been spending days with them without luck.
some of the problems i had were fixed after i continued forward to the next chapter and then came back, but some are harder to kill.
they seem to be too much but the doubts are ...
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Unit Six - Reading

I'd love if someone could help me with the first adapted Cicero text presented in this book, at Unit Six. Here's my best translation (it's terrible), but I haven't gotten the meaning yet.

i desire, senators, i am pious, i desire i am not seen in so many dangers in this town, but now i condemn myself for laziness and worthlessness.
a camp is in italy against the roman people, located in the mountains of ...
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