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More Unit 8 Exercises I (and Units 5-8 Review)

26. Helena, speciē pulchra, salūtem petēbat iēns longē sub lūnā per oppidum ardēns. Incolentibus oppidum neque spēs erat neque frūctus. Dī superī, prīmā lūce post longum tempus domibus in oppidō discessērunt et novās quaesīvērunt.
I know this has been discussed before, but not the bit that puzzles me.
I have "Helen, beautiful in appearance, was looking for safety while going far and wide through the burning town by moonlight. The inhabitants of the town had neither ...
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Unit 8 Exercises I

Would someone please check these translations.
17. Scīmus metum rūmōris per oppida euntis magnum esse; Ō rūmōrēs dīcentēs, īte in malam rem!
"We know that fear of the rumours going through the towns is great. O rumour-mongers, go to hell!"
Is that what "go to the bad thing" might mean in our vernacular?

18. Deō scrībe carmina, cuius nūminī placent omnia pia.
My problem is the referent of "cuius". The only singular noun in the first ...
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Unit 8 Drill II

11. Quae est fīlia hominis ad prōvinciam euntis?

My first thought was "Who is the daughter of the man who is going to the province?", but M&F say that the interrogative pronoun would be "quis' for both masculine and feminine. Is "quae" here, instead, an interrogative adjective, giving "Which (woman) is the daughter of the man...?"?
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Unit 7 Exercises

6. Cui dedisti librum quem magister dīxit mihi legendum esse?

I think mihi here is a dative of agent with the passive periphrastic, so I have "To whom did you give the book that the master said must be read by me?"

Two questions: how would you say
(a) ".... the book that the master said must be read to me"?
(b) ".... the book that the master told me must be read [generally, not ...
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Unit 6 Exercises I

12. "Erant novī rūmōrēs corpora mīlitum esse sāna et mīlitēs validīs vīribus pūgnāre."

I have "There were new rumours that the bodies of the soldiers were sound (? i.e., were returned to health) and that the soldiers were fighting strongly with the healthy men", but I'm unsure about "validīs ... pūgnāre". M&F say that pūgnāre cum means to fight against; does pūgnāre with a simple ablative mean fighting on the same side?

16. "Respondistī nova ...
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Unit 6 Drill IV 5

A little tricksy 4-worder.
"Liberi invidia vitam agimus"

Is "liberi" nominative plural in apposition to the subject of the verb, giving something like "We, the ones free from envy, are living our lives" or "We conduct life as those who are free from envy", or more compactly "We live life free of envy"?

Or could it possibly be genitive singular, giving "We live the life of one who is free from envy"?
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Enclitics and accentuation

When an enclitic such as -ne or -que is appended to a word does it alter the word's accentuation? M&F's Glossary seems to imply it doesn't ("An enclitic ... loses its own accent").

Does that mean that "optavistis" and "optavistisne?" should both be pronounced with the stress on the third syllable, rather than on what looks like the penult of each? And that "..tisne" acts as one syllable?
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non debeo

Unit 5, Prelim. Ex., 7. raises an interesting question.
"Patriam populi territi invadere non debetis"

Is it "you ought not invade -- you should stay away from their country" or "you don't have to invade -- there is no obligation to invade"? In other words, does "non" here negate the action or the obligation to act? I _think_ it ought to be the latter but, then, I'm not a Roman.

And if it's the one, ...
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Unit 5 Exercise I, No. 11

I'm having trouble with part (c). The first two conditions fit the patterns M & F have dealt with previously, but part (c) seems to be the first independent use of the subjunctive in the book. It's not a condition, not a clause of purpose, nor an indirect command. So do you just fall back on their general comments about the subjunctive and go for uncertainty, potentiality, intent etc?

Something like:
The sailor who is ...
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Perfect Subjuntive Active

In M&F (Page 328) the second person forms of perfect subjunctive active do not have a macron on the last i; nor do the first person plurals.

In Wheelock, however, they have (Page 453).

Which is correct? Thank you.
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