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Labial, Palatal Mute Stem Consonant Declension

Uh, a question in regards to Lesson 25 of "First Greek Book"


In here, I noticed that all the paradigms are only showing examples of feminine and masculine genders...what I think must be feminine and masculine because of the case endings in the examples.

My question is, in case of a neuter noun am I to assume that I am to do the same thing I should do ...
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About Lingual Mute Stem Consonant Declension Nouns

My question is in regards to this part of Lesson 26 of "First Greek Book"


I kinda understood the rest, but I have a question about these 2:

250. In the nominative singular and dative plural of the first three nouns the final lingual (τ δ θ) of the stem is dropped before ς. νύξ therefore stands for νυκτ-ς, νυκ-ς, κς becoming ξ. So νυκτ-σι, νυκ-σι, νυξί.
251. ...
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Herodotus 1.96

This passage is causing me some trouble. In order to give enough context, I'll quote the whole chapter.

ἐόντων δὲ αὐτονόμων πάντων ἀνὰ τὴν ἤπειρον, ὧδε αὖτις ἐς τυραννίδα περιῆλθον. ἀνὴρ ἐν τοῖσι Μήδοισι ἐγένετο σοφὸς τῷ οὔνομα ἦν Δηιόκης, παῖς δ᾽ ἦν Φραόρτεω. οὗτος ὁ Δηιόκης ἐρασθεὶς τυραννίδος ἐποίεε τοιάδε. κατοικημένων τῶν Μήδων κατὰ κώμας, ἐν τῇ ἑωυτοῦ ἐὼν καὶ πρότερον δόκιμος καὶ μᾶλλόν τι καὶ προθυμότερον δικαιοσύνην ἐπιθέμενος ἤσκεε: καὶ ταῦτα μέντοι ...
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"abs." in LSJ

κινδυνεύω:...abs., make a venture, take a risk, Hdt.3.69, Ar.Eq.1204

Does "abs." mean absolute? The Herodotus quotation:

ἀντιπέμπει πρὸς ταῦτα ἡ Φαιδύμη φαμένη κινδυνεύσειν μεγάλως

I notice that Smyth has a section on the "absolute infinitive," which seems to describe this usage.

But here is another example that appears to be an intransitive usage:

κρατέω:...abs., rule, hold sway, “Ἤλιδα . . , ὅθι κρατέουσιν Ἐπειοί” Od.13.275,15.298

ἢ εἰς Ἤλιδα δῖαν, ὅθι κρατέουσιν Ἐπειοί.
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Suggestions for supplements to Hansen and Quinn

I've recently purchased Hansen and Quinn, and I'm excited to dig into Ancient Greek. However, I've heard that this particular text is light on exercises and vocabulary. Does anyone have any suggested supplementary material? Or a plan to tackle it to get the most out of it?
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Regarding verbs that are supposedly labial, palatal, lingual

So I'm now at lesson 22.


And I don't understand anything anymore. The last page that I understood something was lesson 21. And I'm not even sure I understood it correctly.

What makes a verb a lingual mute or palatal mute or labial mute? If the first letter in the verb starts with one of those?

Please help.
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Aorist, Perfect etc. Indicative Middle Question

Uhm, I'm now at this part of "First Greek Book"


My question is in regards to the grammar notes:

Grammar Notes

849. The genitive (as ablative) may denote that from which anything is separated or distinguished. On this principle the genitive follows verbs denoting to remove, restrain, release, cease, fail, differ, give up, and the like. Thus, διέσχον ἀλλήλων ὡς τριάκοντα στάδια, they were about thirty furlongs distant ...
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Krashen and Ancient Greek teaching methods

The other Krashen thread got side tracked (and with hindsight I see that was my fault because of the way I opened the topic). However, can I ask that people only post here if they want to talk about Krashen's views on language acquisition.

But this part of Joel's was related to Krashen

jeidsath wrote:I think Krashen's advice is mostly good, though there are parts that I have become very skeptical about over the years. One ...
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Question regarding Demonstrative Pronouns

Uhm, I finally reached the Demonstrative Pronouns portion of JWW's "First Greek Book"

My question is regarding αὐτός, αὐτή, αὐτό.

autos is neuter, right? So why is there three different forms? Is it that one of these forms are for masculine, one for feminine and one for something else?

The other pronouns were clearer, this one is not.
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Advice requested

I have been working at learning Greek for quite a long time but only recently have I been able to devote more time to the study. I have gone through Samuel G Green's NT Greek, J. W. White's First Greek Book and am reading Xenophon, off and on, in the Loeb edition. I am also working on North and Hillard's Greek Prose Composition but since my only goal is to be able to read Greek ...
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