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Plb. 6.3: viva ὅσα!

τῶν μὲν γὰρ Ἑλληνικῶν πολιτευμάτων ὅσα πολλάκις μὲν ηὔξηται, πολλάκις δὲ τῆς εἰς τἀναντία μεταβολῆς ὁλοσχερῶς πεῖραν εἴληφε, ῥᾳδίαν εἶναι συμβαίνει καὶ τὴν ὑπὲρ τῶν προγεγονότων ἐξήγησιν καὶ τὴν ὑπὲρ τοῦ μέλλοντος ἀπόφασιν

Of the Greek republics, which have again and again risen to greatness and fallen into insignificance, it is not difficult to speak, whether we recount their past history or venture an opinion on their future.

What kind of use of ὅσα is ...
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Interference with Dialects

I'm about six weeks into teaching myself Greek, so I'm very much a beginner here. With modern languages I like to use multiple texts; if I get stuck on one I move on to the next, and thus can slowly approach a new language from multiple angles. It works very well for me.

With Greek, though, I have two Attic texts (Assimil's Le grec ancien and a 1952 copy of Teach Yourself Greek) and one ...
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Plb. 6.2.9

μεγίστην δ᾽ αἰτίαν ἡγητέον ἐν ἅπαντι πράγματι καὶ πρὸς ἐπιτυχίαν καὶ τοὐναντίον τὴν τῆς πολιτείας σύστασιν: ἐκ γὰρ ταύτης ᾗπερ ἐκ πηγῆς οὐ μόνον ἀναφέρεσθαι συμβαίνει πάσας τὰς ἐπινοίας καὶ τὰς ἐπιβολὰς τῶν ἔργων, ἀλλὰ καὶ συντέλειαν λαμβάνειν.

One must study the greatest cause in all matters in respect to success and its opposite, the form of the constitution:...

The only way I can explain the first part of this sentence is by way of ...
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ὅτι or ὅ τι?

I did a little search and it seems like the editor of Polybius never uses ὅ τι to distinguish it from ὅτι.

GENERAL QUESTIONS:

How do we know when we are faced with that? It seems like there has to be indirect speech or a superlative (where ὅτι indicates "as possible"). And so any other occurrence has to be the indefinite relative ὅ τι. Is that correct?

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS:

Are both of the following occurrences ...
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Reformatting Perseus Tufts Pages for Firefox

I have long hated all the wasted space on the Perseus Tufts pages, but for a variety of reasons (handy translations and commentaries, and a more readable LSJ on click through) still find them easier to use than the much more readable Perseus Chicago pages. I have finally figured out how to get rid of that crappy sidebar on the left. If you use the Tufts site a lot and use Firefox here's what you ...
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translation on antic greek

Hello to everyone,

Does anyone know the original quote of this '''Freedom is what we reap from this way of life, my friend.'' by King Agesilaus. I need this quote on antic greek. :)
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a long chorus Agamemnon 681-809

Last few days I have been studying the middle portion of this chorus, 738-762. A lot of ambiguity in the metaphors which leave one wondering who is being talked about. Helen, the most obvious referent, doesn't fit all that well with some of the details as Denniston points out in his notes on line 744f.


πάραυτα δ᾽ ἐλθεῖν ἐς Ἰλίου πόλιν 738
λέγοιμ᾽ ἂν φρόνημα μὲν
νηνέμου γαλάνας, 740
ἀκασκαῖον δ᾽ ἄγαλμα πλούτου,
μαλθακὸν ὀμμάτων ...
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Tracing back Greek words to Proto-Indo-European (PIE)

I'm going to trace back ἦν and εἶναι to their Proto-Indo-European root. I know the Greek verb εἶναι is derived from the Indo-European root *h1es-. *h1es- means 'to be' and φύω, from which physics and physical are derived, is derived from the Indo-European root bhū. The root bhū probably meant 'to grow', but also 'to become'.
The root as, which still lives in our he is, is a very old root: it existed in ...
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Reading Plato 2013

Hello everybody,
I'm suggesting to read Plato's dialogues is a group work. Is here anybody? I'm graduate student of philosophy and I'm interested in learning Ancient Greek for reading philosophical works.

Regards.
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how do modern greeks learn ancient greek

This is another way of posing the question of how different are Classical Greek and modern Greek.

So do modern Greeks just pick it up from being exposed to bits of Homer in the way British kids
are exposed to Shakespeare at school? Are there Classical Greek to Modern Greek dictionaries?
Are there translations of Herodotos into Modern Greek? Are the textbooks to help modern Greeks get to grips with Homer etc?
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