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anabasis 1.9.21

καὶ γὰρ αὐτὸ τοῦτο οὗπερ αὐτὸς ἕνεκα φίλων ᾤετο δεῖσθαι, ὡς συνεργοὺς ἔχοι, καὶ αὐτὸς ἐπειρᾶτο συνεργὸς τοῖς φίλοις κράτιστος εἶναι τούτου ὅτου αἰσθάνοιτο ἕκαστον ἐπιθυμοῦντα.
In one place word order was especially problematic for me. Putting ἕνεκα next to φίλων invites one to link to to and this is especially so in that the genitive that ἕνεκα actually relates to is οὗπερ. φίλων is separated from the verb it actually relates to ( ...
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Pronunciation in poetry with a dead language

Reading the English "Chaos" pronunciation poem makes me really sad. If English is that hard for modern speakers to pronounce, how am I ever possibly going to understand all the clever rhymes, plays on words, and pronunciation tricks of a dead language?

:( :( :(
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Ilias/Odyssea: help needed

Valete omnes!

I again need your help with checking some possible errors in the Latin translation of Homer's epics: two open questions concerning the "Ilias" and 16 concerning the "Odyssea". I can assure you that this sounds worse than it is. I provided links to the Greek/Latin-text which should make answering these questions a matter of minutes. Once these questions are resolved I can go about creating the e-books.


I noticed ...
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Meter in Tragedy (Split from topic "Let's Read: AJAX")

Seneca2008 in another thread wrote:I recently bought Finglass and would be interested in joining a discussion on Ajax. I think I used Jebb when I first read this play so it will be fun to compare notes.

I started reading again and got back to where I left last time, to the end of the parodos at 200. I didn't re-read the comments by Finglass though, except here and there. From there on, I'll be paying ...
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Ajax 1-200

I think that the Let's Read: AJAX thread has become like an "overgrown path" and so I propose starting again. I dont want to repeat many of the good things which have already been said there but a little overlap will be inevitable. I think texts should be (re)read slowly and carefully so I wont be rushing through this text.

Anyone is welcome to post anything they like. I am not so interested in literary ...
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Intermediate Greek readers Lucian

Viviparidus and bedwere have produced a Greek comic strip based on Lucian's Dialogues: Promethei et Iovis here. Some found the Greek a bit challenging. I have discovered through a review in the Bryn Mawr Classical Review that Faenum Publishing have produced what looks to be a helpful book: "Evan Hayes, Stephen Nimis, Lucian's Dialogues of the Gods. An Intermediate Greek Reader. Greek text with running vocabulary and commentary."

This can be downloaded as a free ...
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Memorizing Greek words

As part of my desire to learn Ancient Greek from the bottom of my soul, I know I need to be reinforcing the language in myself, through quizzes, drills and the like. The trouble is, I'm a rebellious child and I chafe at such things, but I know it's necessary nonetheless. The difficulty with most "flash card" programs I've seen, though, is that they take the flash-card metaphor to its extreme, never prying from the ...
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Recently started, many questions


I'm supposed to create a topic here, yeah? I was going to post one in the learning Greek forum, but since I'm supposed to post here first, I'll just post here and copy paste later (if necessary.)

I've been studying Greek recently. Even more recently, I've been studying how to study Greek. The basic battleplan is looking like this, so far, not necessarily in chronological order:

1) Grammar rules/terms
2) Index cards (organizing vocabulary ...
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Aristophanes Wasps 936-939 more inanimate witnesses

On another thread there has been some discussion about the personification of inanimate objects (there water, air and blood) as witnesses. It reminded me of the following From Wasps 936-939.

αὐτὸς καθελοῦ: τοὺς μάρτυρας γὰρ ἐσκαλῶ.
Λάβητι μάρτυρας παρεῖναι τρύβλιον
δοίδυκα τυρόκνηστιν ἐσχάραν χύτραν,
καὶ τἄλλα, τὰ σκεύη τὰ προσκεκαυμένα.

Whilst it is not an exact parallel I thought it amusing and worth mentioning. There were indeed other aspects of that thread which were reminiscent ...
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Help locating original text from a Marcus Aurelius quote


I was wondering whether anyone can help provide the original text for the below quote:

Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it

I apologise for my lack of knowledge, but I thought this was from the Emperor's handbook; when I search for this I get pointed pointed to the Meditations. I ...
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