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First Greek reading

Dear all,

I have just finished studying the textbook An Introduction to Ancient Greek: A Literary Approach, and I'm wondering which of the following books at my disposal should I begin studying:

Loeb:

Babrius Fables
Iliad
Odyssey
Plato: Apology, Euthyphro, Crito, Phaedrus, Phaedo
Anabasis

New Testament (Nestle Aland)
Septuagint (Hendrickson Publishers)

My first attempt was with LXX's Genesis, which I gave up after a few chapters because a) the book is too heavy to hold ...
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Ajax 201-595

I'm starting a new thread for the first episode of the Ajax. I have at least two grammar questions that I couldn't resolve to my satisfaction even with the commentaries I have at hand.

535-536:
Τέκμησσα: ἀλλ᾽ οὖν ἐγὼ 'φύλαξα τοῦτό γ᾽ ἀρκέσαι.
Αἴας: ἐπῄνεσ᾽ ἔργον καὶ πρόνοιαν ἣν ἔθου.

What's the exact function of the aorist ἐπῄνεσ᾽ here? Finglass calls it "instantaneous aorist".

540
Αἴας: τί δῆτα μέλλει μὴ οὐ παρουσίαν ἔχειν;

I have ...
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Pronouncing long-by-position syllables when reading aloud

I'm working through Pharr, and I'm very much enjoying getting this hands-on with actual Homer so quickly. I'm currently trying to get better at reading aloud, first making sure I can read the meter properly and then adding in the accents (interpreting the long acute as low first mora / high second mora and vice versa for the circumflex). Having listened to a couple recordings, I'm starting to get the hang of the general pattern ...
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Is there any truth to this?

Is there any any truth in the phrase "Greek starts hard and gets easier, Latin starts easy and gets hard?" I don't expect it to be completely true, but is there even a lick of truth to it? What makes Greek get easier? What makes Latin get harder? (Wrong forum, I know.)
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Ajax 1-200 a new start

Although there are some good things on both the previous Ajax threads neither for different reasons are easy to follow.

ΟΔ. Ποίαισι τόλμαις ταῖσδε καὶ φρενῶν θράσει; 46

I am not sure how this line works even with FInglass ("What was this daring and boldness of mind with which he acted?"). F. explains this "The modal dative "describes the circumstances which accompany the action (Moorhouse 90). Odysseus effectively asks "how did he go about it?" ...
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Optimized, interactive 85% core vocab e-flashcard deck

I am hoping to create an interactive electronic flashcard set of the 2000 or so vocab words that account for 85% of classical authors' word choices. I want it to require the user to see, hear, and type out Greek text. I'm imagining this as something of a "homemade Duolingo" for Attic Greek, as a tool to get up and running as quickly as possible to a vocabulary that allows the broad reading of texts. ...
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Translation to ancient Greek

I just came back from Naxos yesterday and an old neigbour of mine there responded "Only the Gods know" to a question I had.
I was discussing what this sentence would be in ancient Greek with some friends of mine there and they were not certain of the grammar.
Anyone in here know the answer ?
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Greek literature paperbacks

I am now starting to read some Greek literature (mainly Attic Greek prose and plays), but it is quite difficult to find even excerpts of Greek literary works, let alone annotated student editions with commentaries on style and grammar. Very often Loebs are the only resource. Could anyone recommend any renowned series other than Geoffrey Steadman's commentaries? Thanks!

The following are what I'd like to find:

Prose

Thucydides – History of the Peloponnesian War
Demosthenes ...
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ἔμοιγε καὶ αὐτῷ θαυμαστὴ ἂν εἴη ἡ διατριβὴ αὐτόθι

This is from Plato's Apology 41b1-b7. I get the gist of the sentence, but not how certain words fit together, in particular:

ἐπεὶ ἔμοιγε καὶ αὐτῷ θαυμαστὴ ἂν εἴη ἡ διατριβὴ αὐτόθι, ὁπότε ἐντύχοιμι Παλαμήδει καὶ Αἴαντι τῷ Τελαμῶνος καὶ εἴ τις ἄλλος τῶν παλαιῶν διὰ κρίσιν ἄδικον τέθνηκεν, ἀντιπαραβάλλοντι τὰ ἐμαυτοῦ πάθη πρὸς τὰ ἐκείνων—ὡς ἐγὼ οἶμαι, οὐκ ἂν ἀηδὲς εἴη—καὶ δὴ τὸ μέγιστον, τοὺς ἐκεῖ ἐξετάζοντα καὶ ἐρευνῶντα ὥσπερ τοὺς ἐνταῦθα διάγειν, τίς ...


Anyone here fluent in Greek, Hebrew, and (optionally) Latin?

If so, how'd you do it?

Or better yet, would you be willing to take on a learner?

I'm working with old textbooks and a few YT tutorials, but I really feel like what I'm doing is incredibly inefficient. And it gets rather frustrating, incredibly lonesome just chugging along with little to no apparent progress. I can look at the Greek alphabet and know what the letters are, but keeping up with most readers to ...
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