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Video on history of Greek pronunciation

http://www.ellopos.com/blog/?p=1670

I came across this interesting but tedious video (with cheesy music and graphics), and though its treatment of spurious diphthongs is very interesting and helps understand how they arose, I have serious issues with it as a whole, and am not sure what, if anything, is correct in the video. What do people think of this? For me, it basically flies in the face of most of Vox Graeca by W. Sidney Allen, and ...
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Need translation help with hand-written Ancient Greek

I have a hand-written document from 1891 with a phrase in Ancient Greek. It is written in all capitals, with diacritical marks I am unable to type. As best I can type it, it looks like this:

Ἡ ΔίΚΗ ΧΕΙΡΟΙ ΤΗΣ ˒AΔΙΚΙΗΣ except the iota at the end of the third word and the eta in the fourth word both have a mark over them that looks like a sideways parenthesis.

Can anyone help? Thanks!
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repetition or omission of the preposition

Does the non-repetition of a preposition followed by two nouns joined by καί require that the two nouns form a hendiadys? I am looking at John 3:5 γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος.

Nigel Turner, Syntax, states that in John's gospel, he has 15 opportunities to repeat the preposition, but does so only 8 times (275).

Turner's results seem to contradict G. B. Winer who states: "When two or more substantives dependant on the same preposition ...
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help check my persistent accentuation

Hi. Thanks to everyone for guidance thus far.
Can someone check these first few accentuation drills for persistent nouns? I have learned the first noun couple declensions and would like to make sure I have the accentuation rules down. Exercises are first 12 drills for persistent accents found in Hansen and Quinn's introduction, page 12 (introduction is not part of online answer key I've found).

"The accent on the following words is persistent and is ...
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beginning Athenaze, two questions

1) Is a workbook necessary if I supplement the text with the official teacher's manual, and online drills and exercises provided by universities teaching with Athenaze? I cannot find an example of a workbook without buying it, and I do not think an answer key exists--so am hesitant to purchase if I can find other resources that accomplish the same thing.

2) At the beginning of Athenaze, only nom. sing. are given for nouns, and ...
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Greek: my goals, your recommendations?

I have a (slow) reading ability in Latin, finishing Moreland and Fleischer some years back.
I am beginning my studies of Greek by studying Koine (using Croy + Laura Gibbs online course). Depending on the rigor of the Koine course, I will begin going through Athenaze and Mastronarde while doing Koine, or start them immediately after. When I have finished these texts, I will begin a Homeric Greek textbook. I've actually already worked through a ...
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Repetition of ἄν

Hi:
In conditional sentences with more than one clause, should ἄν be repeated? For example, a random sentence:
"If we should attack the city now, we should find (ἄν) fewer defenders at the gates, and kill (ἄν) more guards."
Thanks.
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Why τὸ in "τὸ μὲν ταύτῃ ποιεῖσθαι ?

This is from Diod. 15.53 ( the prelude to the Battle of Leuktra)
ὁ δὲ Κλεόμβροτος πυθόμενος τοὺς πολεμίους προκατειληφέναι τὰς παρόδους, τὸ μὲν ταύτῃ ποιεῖσθαι τὴν διέξοδον ἀπέγνω, πορευθεὶς δὲ διὰ τῆς Φωκίδος, καὶ διεξελθὼν τὴν παραθαλαττίαν ὁδὸν χαλεπὴν οὖσαν, ἐνέβαλεν εἰς τὴν Βοιωτίαν ἀκινδύνως: ἐν παρόδῳ δέ τινα τῶν πολισματίων χειρωσάμενος δέκα τριήρων ἐγκρατὴς ἐγένετο.

I'm having trouble working out why there is a τὸ in "τὸ μὲν ταύτῃ ποιεῖσθαι ". My best ...
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ἀκρόδρυα

Hi and thanks much for all the help and instruction this board has given me. I've always assumed ἀκρόδρυα meant fruit, with an occasional second meaning of 'first fruits' or the fruit grown on the upper branches of trees (hence the ἀκρό). But my print edition of Liddell and Scott goes on to say "esp. hard-shelled fruits", i.e. nuts in the parlance of Liddell's day -- which thinking back makes a lot more sense in ...
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Android does not display Greek vowels in text

Hi!

I am reading ancient Greek texts with Perseus. Everything is fine with my desktop. On my Android tablet, however, the same Perseus text does not show the vowels! Annoying!
Does anybody know why and how to fix it?
Thanks

Ittiandro
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