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Greek in the New York Times

Greek is difficult, according to this recent piece in the New York Times, both learning it but apparently also teaching it: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/opini ... .html?_r=0

I rather liked the 'you have a warm heart because of the cold weather'.
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Herodotus, 1.77

I have a question about the following sentence:

Κροῖσος δὲ μεμφθεὶς κατὰ τὸ πλῆθος τὸ ἑωυτοῦ στράτευμα (ἦν γάρ οἱ ὁ συμβαλὼν στρατὸς πολλὸν ἐλάσσων ἢ ὁ Κύρου), τοῦτο μεμφθείς, ὡς τῇ ὑστεραίῃ οὐκ ἐπειρᾶτο ἐπιὼν ὁ Κῦρος, ἀπήλαυνε ἐς τὰς Σάρδις ἐν νόῳ ἔχων παρακαλέσας μὲν Αἰγυπτίους κατὰ τὸ ὅρκιον (ἐποιήσατο γὰρ καὶ πρὸς Ἄμασιν βασιλεύοντα Αἰγύπτου συμμαχίην πρότερον ἤ περ πρὸς Λακεδαιμονίους), μεταπεμψάμενος δὲ καὶ Βαβυλωνίους (καὶ γὰρ πρὸς τούτους αὐτῷ ἐπεποίητο συμμαχίη, ...
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Interesting use of ἐκτός

Dear all,

I stumbled across an interesting use of ἐκτός recently, and was wondering how best to turn it into English. The sentence is very short; for context, I also give what precedes it:

ὁ δὲ θυμὸς περιόριστον ἔχει τέλος ἀντιλυπῆσαι τὸν λυπήσαντα·

"But anger has the definite goal of causing harm to the person who has caused harm."

This is followed by:

ὁ γὰρ λυπήσας ἐκτός.

I am tempted to read this as: 'Because ...
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Tricky passage-help appreciated

Hi everyone,

I've been puzzling over a tricky (?) passage in Greek, from a fairly late author (Elias-6th century CE). It's the following text, broken down into two chunks:

ἐν δὲ τῷ Ἀλκιβιάδῃ φησὶν ὅτι ‘ὁ ἕνα πείθων καὶ ὀλίγους καὶ πολλοὺς πείθει, καὶ τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἕνα πείθειν καὶ πολλούς’.
"In the Alcibiades he {sc. Plato} says: ‘someone who persuades one man also persuades few or many, to persuade one and ...
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Flashcards questions

Hey, I'm writing vocabulary flashcards, and I have several questions:
1) What cases / tenses should I write in order to be able to decline nouns / verbs?
is nom. gen. sg. and gender enough for nouns?
2) When must I note a macron? exempli gratia, the word χώρα . can I just assume the α is long because of the diacritic over ω? i.e. if α was short, it would be *χῶρᾰ ?
I ...
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structure of δικαστήριον, βουλευτήριον

I realize δικαστήριον is composition of two words. the first word is δικη, but what is the second one?
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ἐρῳδιὸς μήν εἰμι

ἐρῳδιὸς μήν εἰμι. μακραὔχην τ᾽ ἰειμ ἰχθῦς καὶ ἐκ τοῦ ὕδατος τῷ ῥύγχῳ μου ἔλεξω. ἐὰν τοῦτο σχόλιον ἐπὶ δέκ᾽ ἄλλοις φύλλοις μὴ ἀγγείλῃς εἰς τὸ ὀπτάνιόν σου πετήσομαι καὶ τὰ σκεύη ταράξω
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Translating indirect discourse

The text - http://imgur.com/oqMKRIKImage
A. I've tried to translate the sentence marked in black and failed:
What I got is: "he said the the danger dangers great, he himself is un-guarded, and that the enemy plots against him death".
Several questions:
1) I know of the infinitive cum accusative rule, I just fail to see how κίνδυνον μέγαν κινδυνεύειν makes any sense.
2) does the indirect discourse ends before the sentence, or does it continue ...
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πείθειν δῶρα καὶ θεοὺς λόγος translation

I don't see how
πείθειν δῶρα καὶ θεοὺς λόγος = It is said that gifts persuade even the gods.

how does λόγος = It is said that?
why πείθειν is in infinitive and not 3rd pl.?

probably some grammatical structure I'm missing.

Neuter Animal Names

I'm looking for non-diminutive neuter animal names in Ancient Greek, preferably attested in Koine-era writings. The only examples I'm aware of are τὸ πρόβατον and τὸ πετινόν. There is also τὸ ἑρπετόν, but that's more general than I'm looking for. Ive had a hard time locating further examples online. Anyone know of other examples?
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