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Athenaze Study Group - Lesson 6

This is two days early. I hope that's OK. I simply worked on it today, did my reading and translations and wanted to post it already.

These are my answers for section 6α of the textbook.

Exercise 6γ
1. I wash the dog.
We wash (ourselves).
2. The mother wakes her son up.
The boy wakes up.
3. The master stops his servant from his work.
I stop my work.
4. The slave lifts the ...
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Verbal repetition in Greek Tragedy ...

is it "marked language rather than just an idiosyncratic solecism"

Soph. OT 399ff
ὃν δὴ σὺ πειρᾷς ἐκβαλεῖν, δοκῶν θρόνοις
παραστατήσειν τοῖς Κρεοντείοις πέλας.
Κλαίων δοκεῖς μοι καὶ σὺ χὠ συνθεὶς τάδε
ἁγηλατήσειν· εἰ δὲ μὴ 'δόκεις γέρων
εἶναι, παθὼν ἔγνως ἂν οἷά περ φρονεῖς.
{ΧΟ.} Ἡμῖν μὲν εἰκάζουσι καὶ τὰ τοῦδ' ἔπη
ὀργῇ λελέχθαι καὶ τὰ σ', Οἰδίπου, δοκεῖ.

"Let us be honest: this sort of thing, even in Sophocles, is bad writing." Pickering ...
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Papyrus fragment from Demosthenes' De Corona

Here's a link to a papyrus fragment from the De Corona from the first century BCE. You may have to use the enlarging tool to bring it up to full size; once you do it's more or less legible:


Demosthenes, De corona, 167-169. AM 9051 (=P. Oxy. XI 1377), I c. BC

It's from this Princeton website; you can find the citation by clicking on the link and then clicking on "Digital Images of ...
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Sophocles OT 592-93 ἔφυ future aorist?

Sophocles OT 592-93
Πῶς δῆτ' ἐμοὶ τυραννὶς ἡδίων ἔχειν
ἀρχῆς ἀλύπου καὶ δυναστείας ἔφυ;

The syntax here is difficult for me in several respects. The general idea is comparing the relative merits of being the king with having authority and benefits of royalty without the hassles of being the actual monarch. Creon poses the question with Πῶς δῆτ' a note of irony or perhaps indignation. The comparative ἡδίων with the infinitive ἔχειν and ...
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οἴκοι - οἴκαδε - οἴκοθεν

οἴκοι – at home
οἴκαδε – (to) home
οἴκοθεν – from home

I never have a chance to use the adverbial forms of οἶκος in my online Greek communication, so I figured I’d open up this thread to use the words above. Feel free to add your own sentences and to improve on what I’ve written.

πάντα τὸν πόνον τελευτῆσας καὶ οἴκαδε ἐλθών, οἴκοι ἔμεινα πᾶσαν τὴν ἡμέραν μανθάνων τὴν ἑλληνικὴν γλῶτταν.
Having finished all ...
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Present Active Participle of εἰμί

An old question just popped up in my mind, and it first came cross to me when I was being taught the various forms of εἰμί; it's the apparent and inexplicable irregularity of the present active participle of εἰμί. I was using the Hansen and Quinn, but the book contained no explanation as to the origin of this alien formation, other than that it "is irregular". The book mentions that all forms of εἰμί are ...
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Griechische Grammatik und multiple negatives

I'm reviewing my Greek grammar and my German at the same time by reading Bornemann & Risch's Griechische Grammatik. ;)

Here's something I don't understand.

p. 260 §152: "Eine negation wird durch eine oder mehrere folgende Negationen derselben Art

verstärkt, wenn die zuletztstehende zusammengesetzt ist,
aufgehoben, wenn die zuletztstehende einfach ist:
Οὐκ ἦλθεν οὐδείς kein einziger kam – οὐδείς οὐκ ἦλθεν jeder kam

I understand the Greek ...
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Some Athenaze Helps

I put together some help files for Athenaze a long time ago. You can access them here. I'll try to put some more together as we go along here.
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Athenaze - Lesson Divisions

Hello, everyone who is involved in the Athenaze study. There is an issue that I brought up to Klewlis regarding the division of the lessons that I think is worth bringing up here for your consideration.

The Athenaze textbook is actually divided up into thirty lessons, but each one is labeled as if it were fifteen lessons. Thus, we are just doing “Lesson 4” now, but it is really two lessons that we are working ...
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προπεμπτικόν, ἀναγράμμα, λεύκη in Latin?


Recently I ran across several Latinized Greek words in Comenius' Janua Linguarum. I'm trying to find equivalent Latin words or phrases because in a parallel Latin-Greek edition, I feel it's pointless to have the exact same words but in Latin script. So far I've found a few of these equiavalents. For example:

ἐπιθαλάμια -> epithalamia -> nuptialia carmina
ἐπικήδεια -> epicedia -> funebria carmina

But I'm having trouble with the following words, and I'm ...


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