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Koine to Attic Suggestions?

Hello everyone,

I recently realized that most of my Greek googling leads me to this site, so I made an account. And for my first post, I was hoping some of you could help me out by recommending good texts for transitioning from Koine to Attic.

Here's where I'm at: I've had three official seminary semesters of Koine (along with a reading group for another semester). I worked through Clayton Croy's Primer and Wallace's Basics ...
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Williamowtiz-Mollendorff - Suggestions for a New Greek Reade

Found this in the forum topic "Traditional 2nd Year Greek Text".
Helikwps wrote:Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Mollendorff made these and other selections in a short article for The Classical Review in 1907. I hope to type it up and submit it here in the near-future. Cheers,

I didn't see this on the forum, so I am thinking Tim did not have the chance to post it yet.
I found this an interesting read. In two parts ...
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question from Mastronarde Unit 11

unit is on present/middle passive, but my question is about use of dative.

Unit XI, Section III, Question 9:
οὐκ ἔξεστι τοῖς παιδίοις τοῖς θεοῖς σπένδειν.

I came up with two possible translations:
1) It is not permitted to the children to pour libations for the gods.
2) It is not permitted by the gods for the children to pour libations.

#1 is what is found in Mastronarde's answer key. He tends to give multiple ...
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Greek Grammars

Out of curiosity: is anyone used to working with the two most important Greek grammars in German, Kühner-Gerth and Schwyzer? And if so, how do they compare to Smyth?
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regularity of vowel and consonant shifts?

I am memorizing vowel shifts in imp. ind. tenses (e+stem beginning in vowel), and labial/dental/palatal shifts in future act. and middle ind. Along with the pres. ind. tenses, that's all I know.

From what I can tell, some/all of the spelling changes ease what could otherwise be an awkward pronunciation. I have been memorizing these shifts as if they are (basically) regular for any form that has a e- prefix, or a labial/dental/palatal+s. I have ...
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textlinguistics and Attic poetry/tragedy

cb wrote:hi, interesting about dik's tragic word order - after having studied her earlier paper giving stats on word shapes in iambic tri (oh, i was going to link to my site http://www.freewebs.com/mhninaeide where i summarised this info, but my site has been deleted apparently, oh well) i got really excited when i saw dik's book on tragic word order in a bookstore in rome - i bought it and ...
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Proper nouns, Greek to English

Not a huge issue--but it would help me a little. I have tried a few google and textkit searches without luck. In fact, the searches are better at coming up with vocabulary lists without proper nouns!

Is there a list of only proper nouns, Greek and English? Historical and fictional people and deities, places, that sort of thing. I do not need a whole dictionary, but if I could see maybe 50 or 100 common ...
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Reading Manuscripts


I wonder if anyone has any wisdom about ways in which one might enter the world of reading manuscripts. I realise that there are resources available online at archive.org etc. I have two questions:
(1) Any suggestions as to where would be a good place to start?
(2) Any suggested paper resources? I have a dream of reading Greek manuscripts with my breakfast cereal!
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elision, aspect, μεν - δε and stuff: Menander Aspis

To remind you of the background: Kleostratos has taken his loyal slave Daos with him while he is serving as a mercenary in Lycia. Initially the army is succesful and Kleostratos acquires a large amount of plunder. He then orders Daos to take the loot home

Is esential for Meanader to get Daos away from the main camp to the coast (but no further) before the battle that is about to ensue for 3 reasons. ...
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Republic, Iliad, and Anabasis

New audio, and a serious question. Does the Iliad have an emergent melody?

I have spent the longest time looking for any music that could be fit the iambic pentameter (folk ballads, rap music, anything) but nothing seems to fit the Iliad. The only success I've had is exaggerating the accents until I'm doing a sing-song. It sounds good, but I'm interested if anyone has looked into this? One thing I've noticed about English iambic ...
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