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Asketes -askete, what does the latter mean

Hi! I hope it's not inappropriate to ask this but: we're starting a business that produces and sells art. Coming up with a name is always difficult. I decided to try ancient Greek words. I've really been a big fan of Greece since I read about the ancient mythology and visited Greece for the first time a few decades ago.

So, I typed "art" into one of the online dictionaries http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/definitionlookup?type=exact&q=art&target=greek. "Asketes" was one of ...
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xenophon's use of the historic present at start of anabasis

For quite some time the way Xenophon switches from present to past tenses seemed to me utterly random. There are some cases where his hands are tied. ἁθροίζονται has to be present because the mustering in the Kastolou plain presumably continued to the time that Xenophon was writing.

However, in the cases where he is free to choose he picks out, with the present, the key events that move the story forward.
Hence the two ...
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Plato's Phaedrus - 240d

I'm a little confused about the following sentence.

τῷ δὲ δὴ ἐρωμένῳ ποῖον παραμύθιον ἢ τίνας ἡδονὰς διδοὺς ποιήσει τὸν ἴσον χρόνον συνόντα μὴ οὐχὶ ἐπ᾽ ἔσχατον ἐλθεῖν ἀηδίας

What does "ποιήσει τὸν ἴσον χρόνον συνόντα μὴ οὐχὶ ἐπ᾽ ἔσχατον ἐλθεῖν ἀηδίας" mean? The "τὸν ἴσον χρόνον" is what really throws me off.

Almost done with all the inspired speeches. Really pushing the limit of my understanding of Greek. Woo hoo!
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Plato's Meno 80d - question on grammar

This is my first time "posting a new topic." The question is on the first sentence of this passage (see subject line for reference):

καὶ τίνα τρόπον ζητήσεις, ὦ Σώκρατες, τοῦτο ὃ μὴ οἶσθα τὸ παράπαν ὅτι ἐστίν; ποῖον γὰρ ὧν οὐκ οἶσθα προθέμενος ζητήσεις; ἢ εἰ καὶ ὅτι μάλιστα ἐντύχοις αὐτῷ, πῶς εἴσῃ ὅτι τοῦτό ἐστιν ὃ σὺ οὐκ ᾔδησθα;

Question: Am I right to think that the verb ζητήσεις is here taking two ...
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Platos Phaedrus 237c

I am very very slowly making my way through the Phaedrus and I go stuck recently at 237c.

....ἐγὼ οὖν καὶ σὺ μὴ πάθωμεν ὃ ἄλλοις ἐπιτιμῶμεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἐπειδὴ σοὶ καὶ ἐμοὶ ὁ λόγος πρόκειται πότερα ἐρῶντι ἢ μὴ μᾶλλον εἰς φιλίαν ἰτέον, περὶ ἔρωτος οἷόν τ᾽ ἔστι καὶ ἣν ἔχει δύναμιν,.....

I don't understand the "ἐρῶντι ἢ μὴ μᾶλλον εἰς φιλίαν ἰτέον".

Does it mean " Therefore I and you, lest we suffer ...
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Herodotus 4.106

Recently, in another thread, I pointed out that Finns are not Indo-Europeans. What exactly they are can be found in the Budé edition of Herodotus.

4.106. ἀνδροφάγοι δὲ ἀγριώτατα πάντων ἀνθρώπων ἔχουσι ἤθεα, οὔτε δίκην νομίζοντες οὔτε νόμῳ οὐδενὶ χρεώμενοι: νομάδες δὲ εἰσι, ἐσθῆτά τε φορέουσι τῇ Σκυθικῇ ὁμοίην, γλῶσσαν δὲ ἰδίην, ἀνδροφαγέουσι δὲ μοῦνοι τούτων.

In a footnote the editor Legrand notes that according to 4.18, the ἀνδροφάγοι are an ἔθνος ἴδιον καὶ οὐδαμῶς ...
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Another inscription

Translated to Attic from IG7.3172:

μηνὸς Ἀλαλκομένιου¹ εἰκαστῇ καὶ ἕκτῃ, ἐπεψήφιζε Φιλόμηλος Φίλωνος, Κηφισόδωρος Διονυσίου ἔλεξε· προβεβουλευμένον εἶναι αὐτῷ πρὸς δῆμον, ἐπειδὴ ἐπεψηφίσατο ὁ δῆμος ἀποδοῦναι Νικαρέτῃ Θέωνος τὸν ταμίαν τὸν προάρχοντα τὴν τρίτην τετράμηνον ἀπὸ τῶν ὑπερημεριῶν τῶν ἐουσῶν² κατὰ τῆς πόλεως, ὃ ἐπίθωσε³ αὐτὴν ἡ πόλις, ἀργυρίου⁴ δραχμὰς μυρίας ὀκτακισχιλίας ὀκτακοσίας τριάκοντα τρεῖς, καὶ τοὺς πολεμάρχους ἀνελέσθαι τήν τε σύγγραφον ἣν ἔδωκαν ὑπὲρ οὔτων τῶν χρημάτων κατ᾽ αὐτοὶ αὐτῶν καὶ ὁ ταμίας καὶ ...
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Herodotus 4.81, grammar question

πλῆθος δὲ τὸ Σκυθέων οὐκ οἷος τε ἐγενόμην ἀτρεκέως πυθέσθαι, ἀλλὰ διαφόρους λόγους περὶ τοῦ ἀριθμοῦ ἤκουον· καὶ γὰρ κάρτα πολλοὺς εἶναι σφέας καὶ ὀλίγους ὡς Σκύθας εἶναι.

Why doesn't πλῆθος have the article? Why not τὸ πλῆθος δὲ τὸ Σκυθέων?

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Memorization of sentences

Memorization of sentences seems to in practice to work like the audio lingual method. To actually memorize a sentence you have repeat it lots of times. If the audio lingual works so should sentence memorization. The audio lingual historically followed on from the grammar-translation method and while for modern languages it has in turn been eclipsed by communicative methods. http://www.pnglanguages.org/LinguaLinks/languagelearning/BooksBackInPrint/SuccessWithForeignLanguages/success.pdf
I am not convinced memorization is the best method but the thing is it is ...
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Most of this inscription (which I have translated below from Bœotian to Attic) is a list of names and contributions, but the first few lines form a sentence (repeated in the last few lines) which I am having a bit of trouble understanding.

τοιῒ χρήματα συνεβάλοντο εἰς τὸν πολὲμον, τὸν ἐπολέμεον Βοιωτοὶ περὶ τοῦ ἱεροῦ τοῦ ἐν Δελοῖς πρὸς τοὺς ἀσεβέοντας τὸ ἱερὸν τοῦ Ἀπόλλωνος τοῦ Πυθίου.

"These contributed things for the war, which ...
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