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My experience in learning Greek

I apologise if I have caused too many queries when I discuss Greek; when I went to school, sciences had driven Greek off the timetable, and I taught myself Greek at home long after leaving school, and the book that I started with was Professor Pharr's textbook, which teaches Homeric Greek rather than Attic Greek, so I early picked up Homeric versification, and Homericisms such as omitting the article, and leaving contracted nouns and verbs ...
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Question about OI Consonant Declension

Well..."First Greek Book" by John W. White didn't have anything about the OI diphthong nouns in Lesson 55. I only noticed the oi diphthongs when I browsed "Greek Grammar" by Herbert Weir Smyth for any more info about the diphthong consonant declensions.

And then I saw that apparently oi is slightly different from eu, au and ou in being declined, but since only 1 example is given I'm not sure if what I think is ...
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Question about EU, AU, OU stem Consonant Declension

My question here is in regards to the examples given in Lesson 55 of "First Greek Book" by John W. White and page 69 of "Greek Grammar" by Herbert Weir Smyth.


Am I correct in assuming that if the noun is a masculine one, its singular accusative will have a added as its case ending while if its neuter or feminine, the case ending that will be added ...
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2d pers. pres./fut. indicative medio-pass.: ει or ηι?

-ΗΙ is the older spelling in the Ionic alphabet. (However, -EI was the spelling in the old Attic alphabet, before the adoption of the Ionic alphabet. That occurred officially in Athens in 403 but I believe came into general use in Athens somewhat earlier.) -ΕΙ becomes prevalent in Attic in the fourth century BCE, but was not carried over into the koine, by which time ει, η and ηι were in the process of merging ...
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Gorgias 456 b-c syntax

φημὶ δὲ καὶ εἰς πόλιν ὅπῃ βούλει ἐλθόντα ῥητορικὸν ἄνδρα καὶ ἰατρόν, εἰ δέοι λόγῳ διαγωνίζεσθαι ἐν ἐκκλησίᾳ ἢ ἐν ἄλλῳ τινὶ συλλόγῳ ὁπότερον δεῖ αἱρεθῆναι ἰατρόν, οὐδαμοῦ ἂν φανῆναι τὸν ἰατρόν, ἀλλ᾽ αἱρεθῆναι ἂν τὸν εἰπεῖν δυνατόν, εἰ βούλοιτο.

I am trying to parse this sentence, from Gorgias 456 b-c. I have two main doubts.

I originally found the sentence in Mastronarde's first edition, Unit 35. The version I gave just above is straight ...
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ὡσ ἔπος εἰπεἶν

I know that this phrase is an idiom meaning 'so to say'. But I would like to know its literal meaning and its full, explicit grammatical analysis. I know that if you give the full analysis in the way I want, you will end up with something that is barely intelligible. But that is precisely what I want: I want to know why it is that the phrase is, strictly speaking, grammatical, even if it ...
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Relative Difficulty of Herodotus


I've studied Greek for about a year now (in college and independent reading this summer), and I'll be taking a seminar on Herodotus this coming fall. Aside from differences in dialect, should I expect any noticeable increase difficulty compared to Xenophon or Lysias?
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Responsion and the iambic trimeter

James Morwood's A Little Greek Reader has a description of the iambic trimeter, images of which are attached below. In the footnote he writes:

Contemporary scholarship largely rejects the divison of the trimeter into six feet, preferring to concentrate on the three metra. We believe that those just beginning their study of meter will find the traditional analysis a more helpful introduction.

Morwood presents the same material, more or less, as Sidgwick's Verse composition, and ...
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a typo (?) in Dickey

Am wondering whether I am missing something or the accented enclitic here is a typo:
τοῖς παρὰ τῷ δικαστῇ ἐστ ξένος Μαραθῶνι. (p.221)
Dickey herself says (p.5): "If the preceding word has a circumflex on the ultima, there is no change. Thus...ἀγαθῶν τινων."
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Falsely accused of eating two of his master's figs, Aesop purges himself in front of everyone to prove himself innocent.

1.3 διὰ δὲ τῆς πολυπειρίας δοὺς ἀπόδειξιν (Vita Aesopi G).

LSJ lists "great experience" as the gloss for πολυπειρία, which confused me, as it makes it look like something he does often. I assume that here it means something like "wide experience."

Looking at Thucydides 71.3, "wide experience" seems more accurate there as well. Has ...
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