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Audio for Classical Texts in Demotic

I was wondering if any of you have happened upon classical texts put to Modern Greek pronunciation. I suppose I am looking for anything, including Koine, post-classical, Byzantine, but I would prefer ante-classical texts. Obviously, I have the NT covered-- though if you knew where to get some LXX audio, I would be grateful. Finding some Xenophon would be great.
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Helo with "γνούς" aorist participle of γιγώσκω

So I have been looking for any rule, contraction or general explanation for why the first person aorist participle in nominative of γιγνώσκω has that declension. I understand that the stem should be γνω- or γν- after eliminating the -σκ- infix and the γι- reduplication, so shouldn't the declension be γνώσας or γνῶν? I know for a fact that γμούς is the correct one, but I Cannot understand why, can anybody help?

Thanks beforehand.
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Euripides, Orestes 1163-1166

ἐγὼ δὲ πάντως ἐκπνέων ψυχὴν ἐμὴν
δράσας τι χρῄζω τοὺς ἐμοὺς ἐχθροὺς θανεῖν,
ἵν᾿ ἀνταναλώσω μὲν οἵ με προύδοσαν,
στένωσι δ᾿ οἵπερ κἄμ᾿ ἔθηκαν ἄθλιον.

(tr. David Kovacs):
Now since I am in any case going to breathe out my life,
I want to do something to my enemies before I die
so that I can repay with destruction those who have betrayed me
and so that those who have made me miserable may smart ...
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Cloze deletion (or massive context cloze deletion)

I have been experimenting with cloze deletion using Anki to improve my Greek. It has some of the benefits of composition without the major limitation (my poor Greek). I'm posting this because I think it may be a good learning tool for people at all levels.

Some things that I'm getting from it:

1) An intimate understanding of texts that are a bit tough for me to simply read through
2) Vocabulary/Accidence/Syntax/Grammar/Idiom practice
3) Fun ...
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grammar vs. syntax

I've noticed that Dickey, when recommending paragraphs in Smyth, consistently refers to those dealing with inflections as "grammar readings," and to those dealing with word order as "syntax readings." I find this a bit surprising as generally in linguistics (as wells as at my elementary school) the term "grammar" is/was used to refer to all regularities in language, including syntactic ones, whereas what Dickey calls "grammar" is called "morphology" (as another part, on the par ...
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good Budé editions?

Greetings everyone,

I'm visiting Paris for a few days next month and plan to visit some second-hand bookstores to buy (among other things) some essential French scholarship on classics and standard editions of classical texts.

So: are there some Greek and Latin authors or texts for whom Budé provides particularly good editions? Are there particular texts for which getting a Budé makes more sense than getting an OCT or Teubner?

Thank you very much for ...
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Symposium 222a

This was difficult for me. Dover discusses ἄν with the future rather than optative in his note. And Dover suggests "anyone who saw them opened up...will find..."

διοιγομένους δὲ ἰδὼν ἄν τις καὶ ἐντὸς αὐτῶν γιγνόμενος πρῶτον μὲν νοῦν ἔχοντας ἔνδον μόνους εὑρήσει τῶν λόγων, ἔπειτα θειοτάτους καὶ πλεῖστα ἀγάλματ’ ἀρετῆς ἐν αὑτοῖς ἔχοντας καὶ ἐπὶ πλεῖστον τείνοντας, μᾶλλον δὲ ἐπὶ πᾶν ὅσον προσήκει σκοπεῖν τῷ μέλλοντι καλῷ κἀγαθῷ ἔσεσθαι.

Anyone who saw them opened, ...
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Another Halloween Treat

Plato's description of a cemetery and the type of spirits that live there.

ἐμβριθὲς δέ γε, ὦ φίλε, τοῦτο οἴεσθαι χρὴ εἶναι καὶ βαρὺ καὶ γεῶδες καὶ ὁρατόν: ὃ δὴ καὶ ἔχουσα ἡ τοιαύτη ψυχὴ βαρύνεταί τε καὶ ἕλκεται πάλιν εἰς τὸν ὁρατὸν τόπον φόβῳ τοῦ ἀιδοῦς τε καὶ Ἅιδου, ὥσπερ λέγεται, περὶ τὰ μνήματά τε καὶ τοὺς τάφους κυλινδουμένη, περὶ ἃ δὴ καὶ ὤφθη ἄττα ψυχῶν σκιοειδῆ φαντάσματα, οἷα παρέχονται αἱ τοιαῦται ψυχαὶ ...
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Neuter for Feminine?

Last night Joel and I were reading one of Lucian dialogue adapted by Rouse.

Τρίτ. Οὔκ· ἀλλὰ ἴστε, οἶμαι, ὦ Ἰφιάνασσα, τὸν Περσέα, τὸ τῆς Δανάης παιδίον, ὃ μετὰ τῆς μητρὸς ἐν τῇ κιβωτῷ ἐμβληθὲν ἐς τὴν θάλατταν ὑπὸ τοῦ μητροπάτορος ἐσώσατε, οἰκτίραντα αὐτούς.

I thought that οἰκτίραντα should be οἰκτίρασαι (the Nereids nymphs are feminine) and in fact Joel found the original on Perseus with οἰκτείρασαι. Never mind ειρ vs. ιρ, but why would ...
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Herodotus 8.60

ἢν δὲ τὰ ἐγὼ λέγω ποιήσῃς, τοσάδε ἐν αὐτοῖσι χρηστὰ εὑρήσεις· πρῶτα μὲν ἐν στεινῷ συμβάλλοντες νηυσὶ ὀλίγῃσι πρὸς πολλάς, ἢν τὰ οἰκότα ἐκ τοῦ πολέμου ἐκβαίνῃ, πολλὸν κρατήσομεν· τὸ γὰρ ἐν στεινῷ ναυμαχέειν πρὸς ἡμέων ἐστί, ἐν εὐρυχωρίῃ δὲ πρὸς ἐκείνων. αὖτις δὲ Σαλαμὶς περιγίνεται, ἐς τὴν ἡμῖν ὑπέκκειται τέκνα τε καὶ γυναῖκες. καὶ μὲν καὶ τόδε ἐν αὐτοῖσι ἔνεστι, τοῦ καὶ περιέχεσθε μάλιστα·

I'm struggling to translate the bit in bold. So far ...
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