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Euthyphro

I began reading Plato's Euthyphro yesterday. One of the first sentences runs like this:

'οὔτοι δὴ Ἀθηναῖοί γε, ὦ Εὐθύφρων, δίκην αὐτὴν καλοῦσιν ἀλλὰ γραφήν.'
(Our Athenians, Euthyphro, do not call it an action, but an indictment)

No major difficulties here, except why no definite article before Ἀθηναῖοί? Όι Ἀθηναῖοί...καλοῦσιν etcetera. Isn't that what you would expect when a noun denotes a whole class?
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3 levels of Agency in Agamemnon's death

A.Ag 1497-1504 Clytemnestra

1497
Κλυταιμήστρα
αὐχεῖς εἶναι τόδε τοὔργον ἐμόν;
μηδ’ ἐπιλεχθῇς
Ἀγαμεμνονίαν εἶναί μ’ ἄλοχον.
1500
φανταζόμενος δὲ γυναικὶ νεκροῦ
τοῦδ’ ὁ παλαιὸς δριμὺς ἀλάστωρ
Ἀτρέως χαλεποῦ θοινατῆρος
τόνδ’ ἀπέτεισεν,
τέλεον νεαροῖς ἐπιθύσας.


Clytaemestra
Do you affirm this deed is mine?
Do not imagine
that I am Agamemnon's spouse.
1500
A phantom resembling that corpse's wife,
the ancient bitter evil spirit
of Atreus, that grim banqueter,
has offered him in payment,
sacrificing a full-grown ...
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Plb. 6.5.2

ἀκριβέστερον μὲν οὖν ἴσως ὁ περὶ τῆς κατὰ φύσιν μεταβολῆς τῶν πολιτειῶν εἰς ἀλλήλας διευκρινεῖται λόγος παρὰ Πλάτωνι καί τισιν ἑτέροις τῶν φιλοσόφων: ποικίλος δ᾽ ὢν καὶ διὰ πλειόνων λεγόμενος ὀλίγοις ἐφικτός ἐστιν. διόπερ ὅσον ἀνήκειν ὑπολαμβάνομεν αὐτοῦ πρὸς τὴν πραγματικὴν ἱστορίαν καὶ τὴν κοινὴν ἐπίνοιαν, τοῦτο πειρασόμεθα κεφαλαιωδῶς διελθεῖν...

αὐτοῦ is giving me a fair bit of difficulty.

Possibility 1:

On account of which, as much of it as we understand to come up ...
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Two Demoniac Women A.Ag.1468-1474

A.Ag.1468-1474
Χορός
δαῖμον, ὃς ἐμπίτνεις δώμασι καὶ διφυί-
οισι Τανταλίδαισιν,
1470κράτος <τ’> ἰσόψυχον ἐκ γυναικῶν
καρδιόδηκτον ἐμοὶ κρατύνεις.
ἐπὶ δὲ σώματος δίκαν μοι
κόρακος ἐχθροῦ σταθεῖσ’ ἐκνόμως
1474ὕμνον ὑμνεῖν ἐπεύχεται <˘¯>

1468
Chorus
O Fiend who falls upon this house and Tantalus' two descendants,
1470you who by the hands of women exert a rule matching their temper, a rule bitter to my soul! Perched over his body like a hateful raven, ...
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Nicomachean Ethics on Perseus or elsewhere

Thanks in advance Textkit people for any help you can give with this problem. You've been a huge help in the past.

It looks like the Greek-language version of Nicomachean Ethics on Perseus displays only Bekker pages, which I can't figure out how to navigate.  Is there a Book/Chapter option in the Greek-language Ethics t.o.c. that I'm missing (the way there is with other Perseus texts)?  Or does anyone know where I could find the ...
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taylor, beyond gcse: open conditional

This sentence is not from one of the readings but from an exercise
but it has me stumped.

ἐάν τὰ αὐτά αὖθις ὑπίσχηται, μὴ πιστεύσῃς τῷ ῥέτορι.

the meaning must be "if he again these things promise you will not trust the orator.

However, I would have expected it in the form
ἐάν + subjunctive - future indicative.
but the subjunctive, πιστεύσῃς, is instead in the apodosis. Or maybe things are more flexible that the ...
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Are teaching methods that stress speaking best? (Poll)

It seems odd that here speaking methods seem to have universal support
while in the wider world traditional methods still rule.
I thought it would be interesting to check whether we are really as unanimous as we seem to be
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Subjugation of Agamemnon by Clytemnestra

1448
Χορός
φεῦ, τίς ἂν ἐν τάχει, μὴ περιώδυνος,
μηδὲ δεμνιοτήρης,
1450
μόλοι τὸν αἰεὶ φέρουσ’ ἐν ἡμῖν
Μοῖρ’ ἀτέλευτον ὕπνον, δαμέντος
φύλακος εὐμενεστάτου καὶ
πολλὰ τλάντος γυναικὸς διαί·
πρὸς γυναικὸς δ’ ἀπέφθισεν βίον.

1448
CHOROS.
Alas, that some
Fate would come
Upon us in quickness --
Neither much sickness
Neither bed-keeping --
And bear unended sleeping,
Now that subdued
Is our keeper, the kindest of mood!
Having borne, for a woman's sake, much strife ...
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Cassandra’s Swan Song: Aeschylus A.Ag 1444

Aeschylus A.Ag 1444
ἄτιμα δ’ οὐκ ἐπραξάτην.
ὁ μὲν γὰρ οὕτως, ἡ δέ τοι κύκνου δίκην
τὸν ὕστατον μέλψασα θανάσιμον γόον
κεῖται, φιλήτωρ τοῦδ’· ἐμοὶ δ’ ἐπήγαγεν
εὐνῆς παροψώνημα τῆς ἐμῆς χλιδῆς.

The pair has met no undeserved fate. For he lies thus; while she, who, like a swan, 1445has sung her last lament in death, lies here, his beloved; but to me she has brought for my bed an added relish of delight.


LSJ ...
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Greek audio

I noticed someone had posted about Latin podcasts in the Latin forum. I just wondered whether anyone had any experience with Greek ones (or indeed any Greek audio material), and if so, what pronunciation they used?
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