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My new Smyth Grammar finally arrived today, and I am ready to tackle some classical greek. I expect that my koine exprience will help greatly (it seems that vocab might be the biggest stumbling block).<br /><br />However, Smyth doesn't have much in the way of reading. So what do you veterans recommend for beginning reading? Do I start with Homer, or is he more difficult because of the time period? Something else?<br /><br />Preferably something ...
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Study time

As a comparison to the same poll at the Latin side of the Forum.<br /><br />Eu)/xomai se e)rrw=sqai<br /><br />Ptolemaios
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New SPIonic Font Button

Hello Greek Learners:<br /><br />To make the Greek board a bit easier to use I have added at the request of a forum member a greek button that will insert the proper tags for displaying SPIonic text.<br /><br />The new button is the "alpha" button appearing just left of the bold button when composing a message.<br /><br />abg<br /><br />That wasn't too hard to make the change - any other custom buttons??<br /><br />jeff
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syllable division

hi guys,<br /><br />i've just finished reading through two authorities on syllable division, the classic Smyth grammar (section 140) and the new 1994 book by Devine and Stephens, The prosody of Greek speech (Oxford Uni Press: 1994).<br /><br />Both have left me confused... they both admit that the ancients divided syllables one way... but in their books, they prescribe different ways of doing it (for different reasons).<br /><br />Smyth (in section 140.d) says that "compounds ...
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Breathing mark on -eu-

As a rule the breathing mark on a diphthong is above the second vowel.<br />Why is it over the first when the word is a compound word starting with e)u/.<br />I see that eu itself is listed both ways - e)u/ - eu)=.
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How many cases?

Hello,<br />In some grammars there are 3 cases added to the 5 well known.<br />They are:<br />ablative - with endings like genitive <br />locative and instrumental - both with endins like dative<br /><br />Are these real cases or just scholar invention?
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Why the present?

From Lysias' On the Murder of Eratosthenes 8:<br /><br /> e)p' e)kfora\n ga\r au)th=| a)kolouqh/sasa h( e)mh\ gunh\ u(po\ tou/tou tou= a)nqrw/pou o)fqei=sa, xro/nw| diafqei/retai<br /><br />I think diafqei/retai is 3rd person present indicative passive = she is ruined. But why?<br /><br />To see more of the context: http://makeashorterlink.com/?T28836F55
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Literary Terms and Devices

I know I am asking for a lot, but has anyone seen a listing of literary terms used in Greek and Latin literature. In explaination, let me use the example "chiasmus." At least I think this is spelled right. Anyway many of the same literary terms are the same in Greek and Latin. I personally have never seen them all listed anywhere or defined anywhere either. Another one is "The Golden Line." Any help with ...
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autous- them vs themselves

In line 4&5 of the Iliad it says au)tou\j de\ e(lw/ria teu=xe ku/nessin oi)wnoi=si/ te dai=ta,..<br />In the notes after the text (Pharr) it says that -autous- means themseles, ie. their bodies.<br />In context this makes sence, but only because the dogs and birds can't eat souls.<br />When ever I read this over, I almost automaticaly read -them- instead of themselves. It just seems that the antecedent is polla\j i)fqi/mouj yuxa\j h(rw/wn<br />It makes sence ...
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Oblique Optative (was: New Member)

I thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread on this subject, instead of continuing the other topic in a new direction.<br /><br />If I remember correctly, three questions need to be answered.<br /><br />First, if there are textkit grammars that discuss this topic. Goodwin's Syntax of the Greek moods and tenses is a very valuable resource. The only problem is that he doesn't use the term 'oblique optative', although he ...
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