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How many cases?

Hello,<br />In some grammars there are 3 cases added to the 5 well known.<br />They are:<br />ablative - with endings like genitive <br />locative and instrumental - both with endins like dative<br /><br />Are these real cases or just scholar invention?
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Why the present?

From Lysias' On the Murder of Eratosthenes 8:<br /><br /> e)p' e)kfora\n ga\r au)th=| a)kolouqh/sasa h( e)mh\ gunh\ u(po\ tou/tou tou= a)nqrw/pou o)fqei=sa, xro/nw| diafqei/retai<br /><br />I think diafqei/retai is 3rd person present indicative passive = she is ruined. But why?<br /><br />To see more of the context: http://makeashorterlink.com/?T28836F55
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Literary Terms and Devices

I know I am asking for a lot, but has anyone seen a listing of literary terms used in Greek and Latin literature. In explaination, let me use the example "chiasmus." At least I think this is spelled right. Anyway many of the same literary terms are the same in Greek and Latin. I personally have never seen them all listed anywhere or defined anywhere either. Another one is "The Golden Line." Any help with ...
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autous- them vs themselves

In line 4&5 of the Iliad it says au)tou\j de\ e(lw/ria teu=xe ku/nessin oi)wnoi=si/ te dai=ta,..<br />In the notes after the text (Pharr) it says that -autous- means themseles, ie. their bodies.<br />In context this makes sence, but only because the dogs and birds can't eat souls.<br />When ever I read this over, I almost automaticaly read -them- instead of themselves. It just seems that the antecedent is polla\j i)fqi/mouj yuxa\j h(rw/wn<br />It makes sence ...
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Oblique Optative (was: New Member)

I thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread on this subject, instead of continuing the other topic in a new direction.<br /><br />If I remember correctly, three questions need to be answered.<br /><br />First, if there are textkit grammars that discuss this topic. Goodwin's Syntax of the Greek moods and tenses is a very valuable resource. The only problem is that he doesn't use the term 'oblique optative', although he ...
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Some info on texts

Hi, <br />First off, I want to thank you all for a great web site, and online books.<br />I've pretty much finished the JWW intro to Greek book and am now <br />slogging through Xenophons Anabasis. Doing this as a self taught is <br />great but, aside from a few posts on this site and a few elsewhere, I've<br />found it hard to decide wich authors to pursue and which of their books <br />to ...
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JJW Book, Xenophon, etc...etc

I have been using JJW mostly for the reading exercises and haven't had too much trouble with it. The question is: Where do I go from here? Can anyone suggest some selected passages from the Anabasis for reading? There have to be some that are more entertaining (or better) than others? If this was a Latin forum I might be able to suggest some as I had more literature there ...
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1st 5 lines of the Iliad

I translated the first 5 lines of the Iliad and then compared them to an English "version".<br />Some of the differences I don't understand, maybe someone can help me out.<br /><br />Mh=nin a)/eide, qea/, Phlhia/dew )Axilh=oj<br />ou)lome/nhn, h(\ muri/' )Axaioi=j a)/lge' e)/qhken,<br />polla\j d' i)fqi/mouj yuxa\j )/Aidi proi/ayen<br />h(rw/wn, au)tou\j de\ e(lw/ria teu=xe ku/nessin<br />oi)wnoi=si/ te dai=ta, Dio\j d' e)telei/eto boulh/,...<br /> My translation<br />Sing O goddess, the rage of Achilles the son of peleus ...
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masc. adjectives with fem. nouns

In pharr paragraph 724 it says: "The masculine form of many adjectives is often used for both masculine and feminine, even in the case of those which have seperate forms for the feminine".<br />My question is; Did this continue to happen in later dialects, specifically in koine?<br />Thank you in advance.
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the greek anthology

I am trying to find out about a quote that hangs on the wall in my summer cottage. It reads "A shipwrecked sailor buried on this coast sets sail. Full many a gallant bark when we were lost weathered the gale." I have determined that it is an epigram from the Greek Anthology. Does anyone know anything about this quote? Who is attributed to? Which epigram is it. Thanks
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