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Are you a barbarian?

Seems to me that if you use Attic pronunciation, you sound like a barbarian to Modern Greek folks. I wonder if this is the true consensus of most Attic Greek linguists in Greece? The world mostly agrees with the classical pronunciation, but most linguists in Greece seem to not agree with the rest of the world. Why? What is up with these silly folks? Am I just stereotyping? I’ve listened to Old English and I ...
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H & Q page 77

Could someone check the translation of this sentence from English into Greek, please. It's from the Review of Units 1-3 on page 77.

We have ordered the men from the island to send both gold and wreaths in order that by means of words we may teach our brothers the art of war.


tou\j e)k tou= nh/sou a)nqrw/pouj kai\ xruso\n kai\ ste/fanouj pe/mpein kekeleu/kamen o(/pwj lo/goij tou\j a)delfou\j th\n po/lemou te/xnhn paideu/wmen.
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oi (in the Odyssey)

Help! :wink:
If someone could explain the many meanings that oi(, oi(/ it would help me a lot. I'm a bit confused and not sure how to translate it half the time, for example in this sentence (alpha,87):
au)ta\r e)gw\n I)qa/khnde e)leu/somai, o)/fra oi( ui(o\n
ma~llon e)potru/nw kai/ oi( me/noj e)n fresi\ qei/w,
ei)j a)gorh\n kale/santa ka/rh komo/wntaj )Axaiou\j ...
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Starting .....

I am now about to start my 2nd year of Latin at university and when I have improved a bit more I would like to start on Greek. I'd like to do a bit of preliminary study before getting into the uni course as I found that helped me a lot with Latin - it wasn't such a shock to my system!
We have some great textbooks here at Textkit - is there any other ...
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pronunciation of spurious diphthongs

hi guys,

i read in smyth (section 6 and 25) that the "diphthongs" ei and ou formed by contraction or compensatory lengthening were not pronounced as a glide (i.e. "eh-ee" or "oh-oo") but as long vowels only (so "ay" and "oo").

i don't have vox graeca... does anyone have any more info on the pronunciation of spurious diphthongs?

i'm trying to get the pronunciation of the iliad approximately right in particular. could someone please pick ...
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transcription practice

This is a transcription practice.
The image is http://www.nb.no/baser/schoyen/4/4.4/ms1571_1.jpg
(I do this for my practice of greek calligraphy, to identify the letters from those medieval manuscripts and follow the style. :))

First eight lines from the right column,

Tou= au)tou= ei)j th\n pro\j Timo/-
qeon B / e)pistolh/n : ~
Pau=loj a)po/stoloj IhsoU XristoU, Dia\ qe-
lh/matoj QeoU, kat'epaggeli/an
zwh=j th=j ...
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Looking for parallel(not interlinear)greek-english NT!!!

In most foreign languages there are bilingual editions published with side- by-side translations, i.e. french and spanish. I have a french fables classic that is parallel with the english on the opposite page. This is very useful for the intermediate student trying to develop speed and facility with a new language. The interlinear format is not useful, because the translation interferes with one's efforts to translate straight from the greek. The process of having the ...
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Original Cases in Greek

1) In Homer several words end in "-then", refering to motion away from a place. Some genitives also end in "-then", such as "emethen". I know that the genitive in Attic Greek includes the ablative. So is the "-then" ending a "true" ablative?

2) What is the -de suffix on words (oikade, athenazde etc) , grammatically speaking? It indicates a kind of motion - motion towards. Is it a kind of case? Or is it ...
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Vulgar Greek?

Was there such a thing as vulgar greek? I mean I haven't seen much material about the language of common greek people in the pre-koine period.
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The noun "Zeus"

1) Zeus, Dia, Dios Dii - presumably this is linked to the adjective dios - "godlike"? Did Zeus originally mean God and then become applied to the king of the gods? Or the reverse?
Or was there a word Di (nominative) which had Zeus replace its nominative? This seems unlikely b/c z (sd) is phonetically similarish to d I think....

2) Zeus originally had a digamma - Zewus. Is the root of words like div(w)ine?
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