Textkit Logo

It is currently Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:52 am

News News of Learning Greek

Site map of Learning Greek » Forum : Learning Greek

Here's where you can discuss all things Ancient Greek. Use this board to ask questions about grammar, discuss learning strategies, get translation help and more!

prose scansion

hi guys,

similar to 1%homeless' question about pitch, i'm curious to know how many people here on the board try to figure out the correct syllable lengths in prose they're studying, and how you go about it. i check every word in sophocles using perseus, which is painful... is there an easier way?? lsj is pretty useless for this. cheers, chad. :)

(i should point out that ...
Read more : prose scansion | Views : 2302 | Replies : 12


2nd Aorist Optative?

Friends,
I have been studying Greek (koine) for 2 years and doing tutored study for about 2 more years. I was reading in my LXX and I came across a word that I could not identify fully.

Daniel 6:16b
Translation: "Thy God whom thou servest continually, he *will deliver* thee." (KJV)

word: ekeleitai
accent: penult/long
direct discourse

My guess: airew, third person singular, 2 aorist, optative

Issue: Why is the penult accented?

Sincerely,
Mike Ferrando ...
Read more : 2nd Aorist Optative? | Views : 2423 | Replies : 7


Are you a barbarian?

Seems to me that if you use Attic pronunciation, you sound like a barbarian to Modern Greek folks. I wonder if this is the true consensus of most Attic Greek linguists in Greece? The world mostly agrees with the classical pronunciation, but most linguists in Greece seem to not agree with the rest of the world. Why? What is up with these silly folks? Am I just stereotyping? I’ve listened to Old English and I ...
Read more : Are you a barbarian? | Views : 2891 | Replies : 12


H & Q page 77

Could someone check the translation of this sentence from English into Greek, please. It's from the Review of Units 1-3 on page 77.

We have ordered the men from the island to send both gold and wreaths in order that by means of words we may teach our brothers the art of war.


tou\j e)k tou= nh/sou a)nqrw/pouj kai\ xruso\n kai\ ste/fanouj pe/mpein kekeleu/kamen o(/pwj lo/goij tou\j a)delfou\j th\n po/lemou te/xnhn paideu/wmen.
...
Read more : H & Q page 77 | Views : 536 | Replies : 2


oi (in the Odyssey)

Help! :wink:
If someone could explain the many meanings that oi(, oi(/ it would help me a lot. I'm a bit confused and not sure how to translate it half the time, for example in this sentence (alpha,87):
au)ta\r e)gw\n I)qa/khnde e)leu/somai, o)/fra oi( ui(o\n
ma~llon e)potru/nw kai/ oi( me/noj e)n fresi\ qei/w,
ei)j a)gorh\n kale/santa ka/rh komo/wntaj )Axaiou\j ...
Read more : oi (in the Odyssey) | Views : 1423 | Replies : 7


Starting .....

I am now about to start my 2nd year of Latin at university and when I have improved a bit more I would like to start on Greek. I'd like to do a bit of preliminary study before getting into the uni course as I found that helped me a lot with Latin - it wasn't such a shock to my system!
We have some great textbooks here at Textkit - is there any other ...
Read more : Starting ..... | Views : 3188 | Replies : 17


pronunciation of spurious diphthongs

hi guys,

i read in smyth (section 6 and 25) that the "diphthongs" ei and ou formed by contraction or compensatory lengthening were not pronounced as a glide (i.e. "eh-ee" or "oh-oo") but as long vowels only (so "ay" and "oo").

i don't have vox graeca... does anyone have any more info on the pronunciation of spurious diphthongs?

i'm trying to get the pronunciation of the iliad approximately right in particular. could someone please pick ...
Read more : pronunciation of spurious diphthongs | Views : 1339 | Replies : 7


transcription practice

This is a transcription practice.
The image is http://www.nb.no/baser/schoyen/4/4.4/ms1571_1.jpg
(I do this for my practice of greek calligraphy, to identify the letters from those medieval manuscripts and follow the style. :))

First eight lines from the right column,

Tou= au)tou= ei)j th\n pro\j Timo/-
qeon B / e)pistolh/n : ~
Pau=loj a)po/stoloj IhsoU XristoU, Dia\ qe-
lh/matoj QeoU, kat'epaggeli/an
zwh=j th=j ...
Read more : transcription practice | Views : 557 | Replies : 2


Looking for parallel(not interlinear)greek-english NT!!!

In most foreign languages there are bilingual editions published with side- by-side translations, i.e. french and spanish. I have a french fables classic that is parallel with the english on the opposite page. This is very useful for the intermediate student trying to develop speed and facility with a new language. The interlinear format is not useful, because the translation interferes with one's efforts to translate straight from the greek. The process of having the ...
Read more : Looking for parallel(not interlinear)greek-english NT!!! | Views : 823 | Replies : 5


Original Cases in Greek

1) In Homer several words end in "-then", refering to motion away from a place. Some genitives also end in "-then", such as "emethen". I know that the genitive in Attic Greek includes the ablative. So is the "-then" ending a "true" ablative?

2) What is the -de suffix on words (oikade, athenazde etc) , grammatically speaking? It indicates a kind of motion - motion towards. Is it a kind of case? Or is it ...
Read more : Original Cases in Greek | Views : 1520 | Replies : 5


 

Login  •  Register


Statistics

Total posts 100281 • Total topics 12895 • Total members 17816