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If someone could explain the many meanings that oi(, oi(/ it would help me a lot. I'm a bit confused and not sure how to translate it half the time, for example in this sentence (alpha,87):
au)ta\r e)gw\n I)qa/khnde e)leu/somai, o)/fra oi( ui(o\n
ma~llon e)potru/nw kai/ oi( me/noj e)n fresi\ qei/w,
ei)j a)gorh\n kale/santa ka/rh komo/wntaj )Axaiou\j ...

I am now about to start my 2nd year of Latin at university and when I have improved a bit more I would like to start on Greek. I'd like to do a bit of preliminary study before getting into the uni course as I found that helped me a lot with Latin - it wasn't such a shock to my system!
We have some great textbooks here at Textkit - is there any other ...

hi guys,

i read in smyth (section 6 and 25) that the "diphthongs" ei and ou formed by contraction or compensatory lengthening were not pronounced as a glide (i.e. "eh-ee" or "oh-oo") but as long vowels only (so "ay" and "oo").

i don't have vox graeca... does anyone have any more info on the pronunciation of spurious diphthongs?

i'm trying to get the pronunciation of the iliad approximately right in particular. could someone please pick ...

This is a transcription practice.
The image is http://www.nb.no/baser/schoyen/4/4.4/ms1571_1.jpg
(I do this for my practice of greek calligraphy, to identify the letters from those medieval manuscripts and follow the style. :))

First eight lines from the right column,

Tou= au)tou= ei)j th\n pro\j Timo/-
qeon B / e)pistolh/n : ~
Pau=loj a)po/stoloj IhsoU XristoU, Dia\ qe-
lh/matoj QeoU, kat'epaggeli/an
zwh=j th=j ...

In most foreign languages there are bilingual editions published with side- by-side translations, i.e. french and spanish. I have a french fables classic that is parallel with the english on the opposite page. This is very useful for the intermediate student trying to develop speed and facility with a new language. The interlinear format is not useful, because the translation interferes with one's efforts to translate straight from the greek. The process of having the ...

1) In Homer several words end in "-then", refering to motion away from a place. Some genitives also end in "-then", such as "emethen". I know that the genitive in Attic Greek includes the ablative. So is the "-then" ending a "true" ablative?

2) What is the -de suffix on words (oikade, athenazde etc) , grammatically speaking? It indicates a kind of motion - motion towards. Is it a kind of case? Or is it ...

Was there such a thing as vulgar greek? I mean I haven't seen much material about the language of common greek people in the pre-koine period.

1) Zeus, Dia, Dios Dii - presumably this is linked to the adjective dios - "godlike"? Did Zeus originally mean God and then become applied to the king of the gods? Or the reverse?
Or was there a word Di (nominative) which had Zeus replace its nominative? This seems unlikely b/c z (sd) is phonetically similarish to d I think....

2) Zeus originally had a digamma - Zewus. Is the root of words like div(w)ine?

Hi all

Wow... it's been a while since I posted here. For those of you who are learning Greek with the Athenaze textbooks, the following site may be of some use to you. It has various exercises which correspond to the books by chapter. There is also one for the Wheelock text, which I'll post in the learning Latin section of the forum.

http://web.uvic.ca/hrd/greek/

Justin

I'm amazed! I'm looking for a Greek-Italian\Italian-Greek dictionary but in my school everybody says a Italian-Greek dictionary is useless. Useless??????? If you want to learn a language you MUST be able to translate into and from it! Italian teachers are veeeeeery old-fashoned.
Do you know any ditionary?