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Trying my hand at translation

So I decided to try and translate a bit of a webcomic (Existential Comics), which is of a dialogue between Protagoras, Gorgias, and Socrates:

Protagoras: So you see Gorgias, a virtuous man has courage, temperance, holiness, and many more similar qualities.
Gorgias: It certainly seems so, Protagoras.
Socrates: Aha! But you describe all these qualities on their own. What I wish to know is what the nature of virtue is as a whole. Since you ...
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Is Classical Greek fluency possible?

Coming off of a plateau, I have been happy about my language learning progress in the past month. Full verb and participle accidence finally came in across all moods, tenses, and voices, and third declension nouns a couple weeks before that. For a while my reading slowed down as my brain started to figure out what to do with all of the extra information, but it seems to have caught up again. In hopes of ...
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The sentence in question is "φησὶ γὰρ ἁνὴρ
οὐχ ὑπ᾽ ἀνοίας τοῦτο πεπονθὼς διατρίβειν, ἀλλὰ νομίζων
κωμῳδοδιδασκαλίαν εἶναι χαλεπώτατον ἔργον ἁπάντων:"

Eugene O'Neill's translation is "This is what he bids us say in reply to your questions; it is not without grounds that he has courted the shade, for, in his opinion, nothing is more difficult than to cultivate the comic Muse" but, while this may be most accurate in English, it does not seem ...
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Types of Verbs

I group vocabulary for ease of memorization, but I am unsure of how to group Greek verbs. My inclination was to follow Smyth and learn verbs by class, but that is unmanageable and probably unuseful. So I am trying to figure out a more useful scheme. Any thoughts?


-second aorist
-root aorists

In Classical Greek Prose: A Basic Vocabulary, Malcolm Campbell groups verbs by infinitive type.

Any advanced readers ...
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Translating the word "mint"

For clarification, I am referring to the place where coins are made, not μίνθα.

If I had to guess, I should render it as "ἐργαστήριον" (workshop), but is there a better word?
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Demosthenes 18.107

I'm trying to read Demosthenes' fiendishly difficult On the Crown, again. Here's a bit I'm stuck with.

ἆρα μικρὰ βοηθῆσαι τοῖς πένησιν ὑμῶν δοκῶ, ἢ μίκρ᾽ ἀναλῶσαι ἂν τοῦ μὴ τὰ δίκαια ποιεῖν οἱ πλούσιοι; οὐ τοίνυν μόνον τῷ μὴ καθυφεῖναι ταῦτα σεμνύνομαι, οὐδὲ τῷ γραφεὶς ἀποφυγεῖν, ἀλλὰ καὶ τῷ συμφέροντα θεῖναι τὸν νόμον καὶ τῷ πεῖραν ἔργῳ δεδωκέναι.

τῷ πεῖραν δεδωκέναι: Goodwin explains this as "on the law having given a test of itself ...
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Help With J.A.C.T. Reading Greek

I'm beginning to use J.A.C.T.s Reading Greek to learn Greek. I am in Section 1-E. I'll give a few sentences for context.

μη μενε, αλλα φευγε και συ, και ριπτε σεαυτον εκ του πλοιου. αναβαινουσι α ηδη οι ανδρες.

I can't figure out what the 'α' means in "α ηδη" here. It is not in the running vocabulary or any of the companion books that I can find. I think that the sentence means "the ...
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кто кого

This gave me some trouble. ἡ τίσιν οὖν τί ἀποδιδοῦσα ὀφειλόμενον καὶ προσῆκον τέχνη ἰατρικὴ καλεῖται; (Pl. Resp. 332c)

It reminded me of Stalin's famous "who, whom" question (Весь вопрос — кто кого опередит?), which English seems to be bad at. Here is how I've tried to unpack it in my head (I'd welcome corrections).

τίσιν ἀποδιδῶσιν ὀφειλόμενον καὶ προσῆκον ἡ τέχνη ἰατρική;
σώμασιν ἀποδιδῶσιν ὀφειλόμενον καὶ προσῆκον ἡ τέχνη ἰατρική.

τί ἀποδιδῶσιν ἡ τέχνη ...
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Functional differences between participles and infinitives

So I'm good on the differences in form between participles and infinitives. All of that makes sense. Functionally, though, there seems to be a great degree of overlap in their functionality. Infinitives are generally described as verbal nouns, and participles as verbal adjectives. Even with this difference though, participles often function as nouns, given their adjectival qualities. Is there anything significant in how I should understand them functionally, specifically in their areas of overlap?

Thanks ...
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Hi, all.

I've found a resource that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere on this site (but maybe I missed it). It's an online tool for building word lists for either Latin or Greek. One nice feature: it allows you to generate word lists for particular books, and even to filter word lists based on your level or other criteria. Click the "About" link to view a short video which demonstrates what you can do ...
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