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Funeral stele at the Met

In addition to the permanent Greek and Roman collections, I had the chance to see the Pergamon exhibit at the Met yesterday. The (sculptures of) comic and tragic masks are what stand out most in my mind, but I'm still trying to process everything. However, I saw this and thought that it was strange.

ευψυχι ολυμπου ουδις αθανατος

Or εὐψύχει Ὀλύμπου οὐδεὶς ἀθάνατος. Why genitive Ὀλύμπου? Would that refer to the parent?

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Is Harry Potter in A.Greek really in A.Greek?

Hello, I haven't posted in this forum in a while, and my studies of Latin and Ancient Greek have come to a halt when I picked up Japanese, but I still plan to learn them, one day, maybe. :D

Anyway, I have entered into a debate with a native Greek-speaking Italian guy of Albanian origin(!) who after looking at the book "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's ...
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M. L. West's Greek Prose Composition

Dickey's Composition book contains M. L. West's translation of the following section from W. S. Landor's Imaginary Conversations of Literary Men and Statesmen: https://books.google.com/books?id=U_BLAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA489

The section that begins:

Newton: I had something more, sir, to say...

and concludes:

...nor think the milling pays for the alloy.

M. L. West:

Καὶ ὅς, ἤθελον δέ, ἔφη, ὦ Θρασύμαχε, ὁ Γλαύκων, καὶ ἄλλο τι λέγειν, ἢ μᾶλλον ἄλλο τι ἤθελόν σε ἐρέσθαι ...
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Syntax of Mastronarde 2e, Unit 14, Ex III.8

Hi, I have no idea how a phrase in this sentence should be analyzed.

καὶ διὰ τοῦτο ἡ Ἔρις αἰτία γίγνεται τοῦ πλείστους τῶν ἐν τῇ Ἑλλάδι καλῶν καὶ ἀγαθῶν ἀποθνῇσκειν.

Does τοῦ modify πλείστους or does it modify ἀποθνῇσκειν? If the former, what word does ἀποθνῇσκειν modify and what case is it? If the latter, does πλείστους modify ἀποθνῇσκειν as an adjective or is it the substantive subject of it despite not being ...
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Euripides Al. σὺν ἂν ἔσχεν 901

Euripides Alcestis
Line 901

δύο δ' ἀντὶ μιᾶς Ἅιδης ψυχὰς
τὰς πιστοτάτας σὺν ἂν ἔσχεν, ὁμοῦ
χθονίαν λίμνην διαβάντε.

Do we have here συνέσχεν with ἂν between the components of the verb?
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First Greek reading

Dear all,

I have just finished studying the textbook An Introduction to Ancient Greek: A Literary Approach, and I'm wondering which of the following books at my disposal should I begin studying:


Babrius Fables
Plato: Apology, Euthyphro, Crito, Phaedrus, Phaedo

New Testament (Nestle Aland)
Septuagint (Hendrickson Publishers)

My first attempt was with LXX's Genesis, which I gave up after a few chapters because a) the book is too heavy to hold ...
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Ajax 201-595

I'm starting a new thread for the first episode of the Ajax. I have at least two grammar questions that I couldn't resolve to my satisfaction even with the commentaries I have at hand.

Τέκμησσα: ἀλλ᾽ οὖν ἐγὼ 'φύλαξα τοῦτό γ᾽ ἀρκέσαι.
Αἴας: ἐπῄνεσ᾽ ἔργον καὶ πρόνοιαν ἣν ἔθου.

What's the exact function of the aorist ἐπῄνεσ᾽ here? Finglass calls it "instantaneous aorist".

Αἴας: τί δῆτα μέλλει μὴ οὐ παρουσίαν ἔχειν;

I have ...
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Pronouncing long-by-position syllables when reading aloud

I'm working through Pharr, and I'm very much enjoying getting this hands-on with actual Homer so quickly. I'm currently trying to get better at reading aloud, first making sure I can read the meter properly and then adding in the accents (interpreting the long acute as low first mora / high second mora and vice versa for the circumflex). Having listened to a couple recordings, I'm starting to get the hang of the general pattern ...
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Is there any truth to this?

Is there any any truth in the phrase "Greek starts hard and gets easier, Latin starts easy and gets hard?" I don't expect it to be completely true, but is there even a lick of truth to it? What makes Greek get easier? What makes Latin get harder? (Wrong forum, I know.)
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Ajax 1-200 a new start

Although there are some good things on both the previous Ajax threads neither for different reasons are easy to follow.

ΟΔ. Ποίαισι τόλμαις ταῖσδε καὶ φρενῶν θράσει; 46

I am not sure how this line works even with FInglass ("What was this daring and boldness of mind with which he acted?"). F. explains this "The modal dative "describes the circumstances which accompany the action (Moorhouse 90). Odysseus effectively asks "how did he go about it?" ...
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