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Audio practice thread

I thought that it would be useful to have an audio practice thread. The idea is to get practice listening to other people's audio, to record multiple versions of the same texts, comment, critique, etc.

Here's something very short. A pun in Xenophon?

Extra points if you make your recording (or a transcript) based on my recording without looking up the text. Note that any errors in that case will be my fault.

Also, please ...
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Odyssey 1.1-10 audio recording

Since I've been critiquing other poster's recordings of Homer, I decided to try my hand at overcoming my various speech disorders and recording a short bit myself. It's the beginning of book 1 of the Odyssey. For practical reasons, I'm trying to represent the pronunciation of 5th century Athens, not real Homer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YrjwRt ... e=youtu.be

Although I've always tried to pronounce Greek mentally, I've never tried to record it ...
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Odysseias Z: New Audio Recording

I would like to announce that I have just posted a recording of Odyssey Book 6 on Internet Archive.

It represents the results of more than a year of practice and experimentation in crafting a reading style in which pitch, stress, and rhythm are controlled independently, and the quantitative verse comes out clearly without a loss of expressivity. Tones rise and fall to mark the boundaries of morphemes, words, and clitic groups, while stress ...
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libreoffice-openoffice Anc Greek

The Ancient Greek dictionary for libreoffice+openoffice can be found here

As well as providing a spellchecker it also provides conversion from Beta Code to Unicode and the same for SPIonic.
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Deponent active vs middle meaning

Basic question: do deponent verbs only use the middle form as an active sense only or do they also use the middle sense? In other words, is it possible for a deponent verb to have an active sense, a middle sense, and by extension a passive sense? Or do deponent verbs only get used in an active sense? Smyth implies the latter. My "Greek ain't never that simple" gut feeling says the former. Thoughts?
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ἀντιτείχισμα as "buttressing" in Thucydides 2.77

Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, 2.77 wrote:μετὰ δὲ τοῦτο οἱ Πελοποννήσιοι, ὡς αἵ τε μηχαναὶ οὐδὲν ὠφέλουν καὶ τῷ χώματι τὸ ἀντιτείχισμα ἐγίγνετο, νομίσαντες ἄπορον εἶναι ἀπὸ τῶν παρόντων δεινῶν ἑλεῖν τὴν πόλιν πρὸς τὴν περιτείχισιν παρεσκευάζοντο.
After this the Peloponnesians, finding that their engines effected nothing, and that their mound was met by the counter-work, concluded that their present means of offence were unequal to the taking of the city, and prepared for its circumvallation.
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Διοκλῆς δ᾽ ὁ Καρύστιος τὸν σικυόν φησι μετὰ σιτίων ἐν πρώτοις λαμβανόμενον ἐνοχλεῖν· φέρεσθαι γὰρ ἄνω καθάπερ τὴν ῥάφανον· τελευταῖον δὲ λαμβανόμενον ἀλυπότερον εἶναι καὶ εὐπεπτότερον· ἑφθὸν δὲ καὶ διουρητικὸν μετρίως ὑπάρχειν.

I can translate this, to the best of my ability, as:

"Diocles of Carystus says the cucumber, taken with grains (in bread?) at first troubles , for it is carried upwards (vomited?) just like the cabbage, but the latter is taken more ...
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Athenaze Study Group - Lesson 10

Exercise 10α
Make verb charts and fill them in. Rather than photocopying, you may choose to create a spreadsheet with the verbs up to this point and keep it handy on your computer.

Exercise 10β
Give the 1st person singular of the future of the following verbs:
1. νικάω
2. τέρπομαι
3. παύω
4. παρασκευάζω
5. πέμπω
6. ἡγέομαι
7. βοάω
8. πείθω
9. δέχομαι
10. πάσχω

Exercise 10γ
Give the corresponding future form of ...
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Constantinus Lascaris, Greek Grammar (1476)

The Greek Grammar by Constantinus Lascaris (Κωνσταντῖνος Λάσκαρις) is perhaps the oldest printed work in Greek, dating from 1476.

Two questions. . .

I read through this work, once as an undergraduate and once later, but can't recall seeing any indication as to what Lascaris' own sources were. It is too comprehensive and systematic to have been written ad hoc, and even if it were from memory, it would need a model for organisation. ...
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Moeridis Atticistae Lexicon Atticum

Sorry for the lame question, but...

Grammar books dating from the 1820's till well into that century (inc. LSJ) refer to either Moer. or Piers, ad Moer. in their footnotes.

Some of those books are:
A Greek Grammar of the New Testament By Georg Benedikt Winer (1825)
A Copius Greek Grammar, Volume 1 By August Matthiae (5th Ed. 1837)
A catalogue of irregular Greek verbs [extr. from P.C. Buttmann's Ausführliche griechische ... (1837)

I understand ...
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