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problem with Alexander Waugh Young's account of Hastings

I down loaded The tutorial Greek reader by Alexander Waugh Young a few days ago while most of it is extracts from easier writers like Strabo in includes also an account of the Battle of Hastings.

His reasoning is that in Xenophon and Thucydides there does not exist continuous sections of prose so he to the sentences he considered to be easy enough for beginners and using them as templates he patched them together into ...
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Herodotus 4.113

4.113.3 ὁ δὲ νεηνίσκος, ἐπεὶ ἀπῆλθε, ἔλεξε ταῦτα πρὸς τοὺς λοιπούς· τῇ δὲ δευτεραίῃ ἦλθε ἐς τὸ χωρίον αὐτός τε οὗτος καὶ ἕτερον ἦγε, καὶ τὴν Ἀμαζόνα εὗρε δευτέρην αὐτὴν ὑπομένουσαν. οἱ δὲ λοιποὶ νεηνίσκοι ὡς ἐπύθοντο ταῦτα, καὶ αὐτοὶ ἐκτιλώσαντο τὰς λοιπὰς τῶν Ἀμαζόνων.

"The youth went away and told his comrades; and the next day he came himself with another to the place, where he found the Amazon and another with her awaiting ...
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Missing pages in Rutherford's First Gammar Syntax

I'm new to textkit.
I've downloaded Rutherford's book here at textkit and noticed that some pages are missing, namely pages 19, 64 and 65.
Unfortunately, I can't post the link yet, as I'm a new member, but it seems like the only digital version of the book avaible is that made by textkit, wherein those pages are missing.
Does anyone has the missing pages?
Thank you!
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Translating sentences

1) Ζεύς ἐστιν αἰθήρ, Ζεὺς δὲ γῆ, Ζεὺς δ᾿ οὐρανός,
Ζεύς τοι τά πάντα χὤ τι τῶνδ᾿ ὑπέρτερον.

I don't understand the second line - "Zeus is more avobe all... " what is χὤ? What is the role of τοι? What is τῶνδ᾿? I've looked those words in perseus, yet I can't understand how they all connect together.

2) χωρὶς τό τ᾽ εἰπεῖν πολλὰ καὶ τὰ καίρια.

I've got ...
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Plato Apology 35e1

This sentence has been a bit tricky for me:

τὸ μὲν μὴ ἀγανακτεῖν, ὦ ἄνδρες Ἀθηναῖοι, ἐπὶ τούτῳ τῷ γεγονότι, ὅτι μου κατεψηφίσασθε, ἄλλα τέ μοι πολλὰ συμβάλλεται, καὶ οὐκ ἀνέλπιστόν μοι γέγονεν τὸ γεγονὸς τοῦτο, ἀλλὰ πολὺ μᾶλλον θαυμάζω ἑκατέρων τῶν ψήφων τὸν γεγονότα ἀριθμόν.

I'm especially confused by the μὲν. I can't grasp the nuances of why it would appear in this context. Denniston unfortunately doesn't discuss this instance.
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Menander sentence

Hey, I'm trying to translate:
Ὠς οὐδὲν ἡ μάθησις, ἄν μὴ νοῦς παρῃ = Learning.... mind is missing. I just don't get how this sentence is structured: where is the subject and where is the object? what is the role of Ὠς οὐδὲν?

Another question - what is the genitive form of μάθησις ?
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Conversational Greek Via Skype

Would anyone here be interested in practicing spoken Attic Greek over a Skype conference call, on Sundays perhaps?
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Anabasis 1.9.16 singular becomes plural

εἴς γε μὴν δικαιοσύνην εἴ τις φανερὸς γένοιτο ἐπιδείκνυσθαι βουλόμενος, περὶ παντὸς ἐποιεῖτο τούτους πλουσιωτέρους ποιεῖν τῶν ἐκ τοῦ ἀδίκου φιλοκερδούντων.

τις is singular and I do see that that individual is representative of a number who are desiring to demonstrate justice but for me it seems quite random that Xenophon half way through the sentence switches to plural with τούτους

This is my translation:
As to what concerns justice if someone should become ...
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two new learners - ancient and koine

Hello all. My father and I have decided to start learning Greek together; we are both starting from scratch. His goal is to read the New Testament, my goal is Homer, Plato, etc. I have done some reading about ancient vs. attic vs. koine, but my question here is this: with koine being a kind of 'subset' of ancient/attic, it seems logical that we start with that to cover both of our goals. However, will ...
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