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Archilochus fragment

A fragment of Archilochus, numbered 112 in Campbell's Greek Lyric Poetry (and 191 in West's translation, but I'm not sure what critical edition the number refers to).

τοῖος γάρ φιλότητος ἔρως ὐπό καρδίην ἐλυσθείς
πολλήν κατ̣᾿ ἀχλύν ὀμμάτων ἔχευεν,
κλέψας ἐκ στηθέων ἁπαλάς φρένας

The meaning is pretty clear, but I have problem with the second line: apparently κατ̣᾿ goes with ὀμμάτων, but the interposition of ἀχλύν is strange to me. The other possibility is ...
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Hipparchus 265

"οὕτω τὸ λίαν ἧσσον ἐπαινῶ τοῦ μηδὲν ἄγαν:"

What are the last three words? I can puzzle out the rest near enough ("thus I praise much less", but feel free to correct me) but I can't make sense of the last three words.
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Athenaze Study Group - Lessons 9 & 10 Discussion

This thread is for discussion lessons 9 and 10 - for the sake of cementing the material.

Feel free to post links to practice materials, helps, paradigms and other things that will help in mastering the materials in these two chapters.

In the meantime, I've created a PDF with paradigms and some notes from chapter nine. I'll tell you later what I find difficult to remember and see if you have pointers about how I ...
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pronounce σκοτάδι+φως help me

how are you?
please i need to help you
i don't know how i can prononce this word in greek

φως in english mean light
is pronounce like "fosh or foz".?

and this word

is pronounce "skotathe"..


please tell me how i can prononce this word
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Help me to sketch a plan of reading to this year

mwh wrote:"The end approaches. You'll never get to read the Odyssey for the first time ever again!"

I've finished the Odyssey this week, and maybe because of the end of the year, maybe because of the comment above, I feel a little nostalgic so as to post my usual questions. I'd just like to say that I've enjoyed very much the last books, maybe in part because of the incidental reason that at that point ...
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Ranking Greek writers by difficulty

I think you'll find, as you progress, that this scale of measurement, which may work for modern foreign languages, isn't really useful or valid for ancient Greek. Some texts are easier than others; some authors have a style that's very difficult. Plato reads somewhat more easily for me at least than Isocrates; Isocrates is usually easier (but blander) than Demosthenes; and Thucydides' speeches are the most difficult prose of all--even the ancient Greeks and those ...
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What is the Grammar-Translation method?

(This is a fork from the Translation of the word τον τεθνηξομενον thread.)

I would be interested to know what people think the Grammar-Translation method is, both from those who are fans of the method and from those to him it is a dead end.
Which text books follow that method?
To what extent is this a label that gets put on those teaching who are actually just muddling along relying on their knowledge of ...
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question re: spelling in texts

total newbie question haha!

I've started attempting to work my way through Krito with the help of Steadman's guide on pdf.

I also have the text in an old book.

Some of the words don't match, specifically a difference of ξ vs σ. Where my book says ξυνηθης, Steadman's version says συνηθης. As well, ξυμφορᾳ vs συμφορᾳ.

What's happening here?
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Just joined this forum/site
I am currently stuck on the first few sentences of a story I am trying to translate from Attic Greek.
Here it is:

Ἂνθρωπός τις εκάλει ἐπί τό δειπνον τούς ἐαυτου ζένους,
ὀ δέ τουτου κύων ἂλλον κύνα ἐκάλει, λέγων, "εὖ δειπήσεις, ὦ φιλε, μετά ἐμου."

So, I would translate the first sentence as:
A certain man himself was calling the foreigners to dinner,
and this dog was calling another ...
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Soph. OT 639-41 δεινά μ' Οἰδίπους

Soph. OT 639-41
{ΚΡ.} Ὅμαιμε, δεινά μ' Οἰδίπους, ὁ σὸς πόσις,
δρᾶσαι δικαιοῖ, δυοῖν ἀποκρίνας κακοῖν,́
ἢ γῆς ἀπῶσαι πατρίδος ἢ κτεῖναι λαβών.

I reviewed Smyth on this but didn't come away with a decisive answer. Should we read μ' as a dative or accusative?

LSJ notes that δράω in finite form can take two accusatives but here we have δρᾶσαι as an argument of δικαιοῖ which is different. The syntax here isn't strange but ...
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