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Butcher in Athens

Dear Fellows,

In latin we have the word lanii for butchers. In Greek, there`s no such a word. It seems to me that the Romans ate more flesh than the greek and so had to have a profession specialized in cutting the meat. This is because, i believe, the greeks of Athens conteted themselves with fish and the other ones didnt know how good bovine flesh is.

If, nevertheless, anyone can come with a fact ...
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What kind of texts are hardest?

To me:
Action in the real world is easiest.
Description is a little harder.
Abstract idea are far harder than both.

That Anabasis was traditionally the first text to be given to learners makes me think that I am not alone in this but some text books almost exclusively focus on the abstract so maybe people differ on this.

It goes with out saying, I assume, that long complicated sentences, obscure words and unusual declensions ...
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Sophocles scholia

Here’s the note on Ajax 1142ff. that I mentioned in the Ajax 1132 thread. It will come from a commentary, and looks as if it represents post-Aristotelian literary criticism.

τὰ τοιαῦτα σοφίσματα οὐκ οiκεῖα τραγωδίας· μετὰ γὰρ τὴν ἀναίρεσιν ἐπεκτεῖναι τὸ δρᾶμα θελήσας, ἐψυχρεύσατο, καὶ ἔλυσε τὸ τραγικὸν πάθος.
(https://play.google.com/books/reader?id ... =GBS.PA109, link courtesy of jeidsath.)

“Sophistic arguments like these are not proper for tragedy. By deciding to stretch ...
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First Greek Writer Exercises XVIII ->

Exercise XVIII

θηρευτὴς ἦν τούτῳ δὲ ἔθος ἦν πολλάκις διὰ τῆς ὕλης ἰέναι. ἐνταῦθα γὰρ θήρα ἦν τοῖς λέουσιν.

ποτὲ εὖρε δύο σκύμνους ἄνευ τοῦ πατρὸς ὄντας. καὶ τούτοις οὐκ ἦν φόβος αὐτοῦ τῷ δὲ κέρκῳ ἔσαινον καὶ αὐτῷ φίλος ἦν.

οὗτος τερπνός ἦν τῷ θηρευτῇ καὶ χαμαί καθημένῳ τοῖς σκύμνοις ἔδωκε σιτία τινά ἅμα δὲ αὐτος καὶ ἤσθιε μετὰ ἐκείνων. ἡ δὲ λέαινα μήτηρ τῶν σκύμνων οὖσα ἐν τούτῳ ἦλθε καὶ τὸν ἀνδρὸν καὶ ...
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Cyropaedia - Online Commentary

Saw this while researching how to do beginner's commentaries, I figured some people here might like it. It's also collaborative.

http://www.cyropaedia.org/
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"the formal, obsequious ὦ is usually omitted by Herodotus whenever an inferior is addressed by a superior: cf. ὦ Κροῖσε at 32,1, as against the condescending Κροῖσε here".
-- Commentary on Herodotus Books I-IV, p. 143.

"Chez Homère, l'emploi de la particule est moins fréquent qu'en attique (et plus fréquent dans l'Odyssée que dans l'Iliade). Tandis que, chez Platon, ὦ est devenu la formule de politesse banale, l'usage de la particule répond chez Homère à ...
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Greek entries from Sidgwick's diary

Σαῦλος:

On a different topic, take a look at this interesting post about Arthur Sidgwick's personal diary. Can you decipher his Greek?



οἴκοθεν

from home
οἴκαδε

to home
ὦ στέρνα δὸς στέρνοισι συμπλέκον δέμας

O breast, give to breasts a combined frame.
γυμνοῦ κόρη τὸ σῶμα· σὀς πάρειμ’ ἀνήρ (kίους wisc)

Strip, girl, your body, your man is present. (unk. Can someone decipher this?)
ὦ θάλπος ἡ οὐ στηθέων τε συμβολή.

O pain of the ...
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Athenaze Study Group - Lesson 12β

This is the template for 12β of Athenaze. Good luck!

Exercise 12θ
Don't forget to fill out verb charts as we go along. In this lesson, you should do one for ἀποκτείνω and ἀποκρίνομαι in the aorist.

Exercise 12ι
Change these into the aorist, keeping the same person, number and gender as appropriate. There is one that says it has two options. Provide both options.
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. ...
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Sophocles Ajax 1132

τούς γ᾽ αὐτὸς αὑτοῦ πολεμίους. οὐ γὰρ καλόv.
Why is πολεμιουσ in the accusative?
What is a literal(exact) translation?
Is τουσ associated with πολεμιουσ or does it, especially with the particle, refer back to something else?

Richard Ross
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First Greek Writer Exercises III->

I will try breaking off threads for every group of three exercises going forward, but may adjust that depending on forum clutter. And I'm going to use the following headings to organize my posts:

Exercise X -- Comment @YYY
Exercise X -- Submission
Exercise X -- Correction

Exercise III -- Submission

οὗτος ὁ ἵππος ὁ ἐμός ἐστιν. πρότερον μὲν ἰσχυρός ῆν νῦν δὲ σφόδρα λεπτὸς καὶ φαῦλός ἐστιν. καὶ τὴν αἰτίαν λέξω. οἱ γεωργοὶ οἵς ...
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