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Plato, Apology 26 a4

δῆλον γὰρ ὅτι ἐὰν μάθω, παύσομαι ὅ γε ἄκων ποιῶ.
Some editors & scholars (e.g., de Strycker/Slings) believe that ὅ here is a problem and consider two possible solutions to it:
a. to read οὗ instead. I understand that this would provide παύσομαι with the genitive it needs. Yet this also would, as it seems to me, deprive ποιῶ of the accusative it needs. Am I getting it right that, on this reading, this would ...
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Model editions for standard line numbers in drama

If I'm correct, the line numbers of modern editions of Greek drama are standardized based on one early edition. It seems to be almost impossible to find information about which editions the standards are based on. Does anyone know which editions are used? I need to know the first edition which is used as a standard, not some later edition conforming to this.
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Earliest Autographs

My question is a bit difficult to phrase...

Whose is the earliest autograph that is still extant?

Are there verifiable examples earlier than King Odoacer?
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ὡραῖος re-etymologised seems plausible to me

Fitting ὡραῖος' sense of "beautiful" into a single etymological sequence, about "timely"-ness seems cumbersome.

Since ὁράω was a common everyday verb, I find it conceivable that ὡραῖος was re-etymologised in the popular imagination to mean "having the quality that we like to look at", "worth looking at", "beautiful", rather than ignoring the similarity and imagining that speakers in the post-classical period just extended the meaning of "youthful" to its connotation of "beautiful" - which extension ...
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Writing IPA

Browsing recent Textkit posts has rekindled a question I have often had before, done some research on, and then quickly abandoned: Does anyone have recommendations or guidance on (1) IPA keyboards & fonts for Windows 10 (in my case) or Mac, and (2) writing IPA on the internet (e.g., in Textkit)?

(On Joel's recommendation, I have posted this topic on the Learning Greek forum, since indeed IPA would probably most often be useful in discussions ...
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Searching between the fields in online lexica?

Is there a way to search for parts of the entries which are neither lemmata nor meanings in an online version of LSJ? I want like to be able to search for something as non-specific as "ii" and to get heaps of nonsensical results. Then perhaps to be able to search within the returned results.

Both Perseus and TLG seem to be too efficient and clean in their categorisation of elements into data fields. I ...
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Machine-readable Greek lexicon w/variant forms?

As part of my effort to memorize Greek words, including all the different moods/tenses/cases/etc. (see here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65103 ), I’m trying to program some kind of flashcard thingy for my computer.

I’ve found this GitHub project extremely helpful: https://github.com/gcelano/LSJ_GreekUnicode It’s the entire Liddell-Scott-Jones Greek lexicon, in TEI XML format. It’s great to have the LSJ as something machine-readable, but I’d like to go a ...
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Dyscolus (1959) published or reperformed in 2009?

Does the 2009 DVD published by the University of Sydney contain Bill Ritchie's original 1959 original language production of Sydney University Classical Society's reading of Menander's Dyscolus, or a different commemorative production?

http://www.apgrd.ox.ac.uk/archive/Gen-C ... 9%2B/15306
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Aspect in Ancient Greek

For those of you interested in a somewhat formal linguistic discussion of aspect in ancient Greek, you might want to check out the dissertation referenced below:

Aspect in Ancient Greek: A semantic analysis of the aorist and imperfective

I have no personal link to this dissertation or to the institution, but found the presentation gave me my first comprehensible model to understand aspect in ancient Greek. Although he uses formal semantics in places, he also ...
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How is somebody a προπηλακιζόμενον ... πίθηκον?

Plato, Republic. 9.590b wrote:κολακεία δὲ καὶ ἀνελευθερία οὐχ ὅταν τις τὸ αὐτὸ τοῦτο, τὸ θυμοειδές, ὑπὸ τῷ ὀχλώδει θηρίῳ ποιῇ καὶ ἕνεκα χρημάτων καὶ τῆς ἐκείνου ἀπληστίας προπηλακιζόμενον ἐθίζῃ ἐκ νέου ἀντὶ λέοντος πίθηκον γίγνεσθαι;

If people laughed at the child-like antics of monkeys at that time as we do at circuses and zoos, the nπροπηλακιζόμενον might imply ridicule rather than besmirched reputation.

What type of moral or cultural associations are implied with a description ...


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