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What is the imperfect of αἰτέω?

Is there something in the pre-Attic morphology of αἰτέω that allows for "loss" of the iota during the temporal augmentation of the imperfect? That is to ask, is ἤτει a (or the) valid imperfect of αἰτεῖ?

The question arises from the Perseus text of the bowdleriseworthy Longus 3.14.
Ἤτει δὴ τὴν Χλόην χαρίσασθαί οἱ πᾶν ὅσον βούλεται καὶ γυμνὴν γυμνῷ συγκατακλινῆναι μακρότερον ἢ πρόσθεν εἰώθεσαν:
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Deipnosophistae 1.2

I had a question about a passage in the Deipnosophistae about half way down the paragraph in 1.2:

........ἔσχεν ὄνομα τοῦ κυρίου διασημότερον Κειτούκειτος. οὗτος ὁ ἀνὴρ νόμον εἶχεν ἴδιον μηδενὸς ἀποτρώγειν πρὶν εἰπεῖν ‘κεῖται ἢ οὐ κεῖται;’ οἷον εἰ κεῖται ὥρα ἐπὶ τοῦ τῆς ἡμέρας μορίου, εἰ ὁ μέθυσος ἐπὶ ἀνδρός, εἰ ἡ μήτρα κεῖται ἐπὶ τοῦ ἐδωδίμου βρώματος, εἰ σύαγρος κεῖται τὸ σύνθετον ἐπὶ τοῦ συός.

I am wondering if someone could explain ...
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δαιτός - whose or what's teeth are the sawyers?

In the LSJ entry for πριστήρ, there is mention of the word δαιτός. Whose or what's teeth are the sawyers?

πρισ-τήρ , ῆρος, ὁ, (πρίω)
A.saw, Aret.CD 1.2.
2. sawyer, “πριστῆρες δαιτὸς ὀδόντες” App.Anth.3.101.
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If you want to mark some of my translations

Maybe it'll be useful for you too ...:

These are the exercises (and relevant information):
https://imgur.com/a/VHm0NVj

My attempts:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t5Y7wwhEBd116gJLVd79Dy5Wem9QocISgjZd8g2R8mE/edit?usp=sharing

For marking on the google docs:

Highlight text and click "insert comment" for corrections or general advice. Highlighting and pressing delete or backspace will cross out the text, as though it is wrong and needs to be corrected.

Thanks, hope this is useful to you guys as it will be greatly for me ! The most ...
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Can't translate:οἱ πολῖται οἱ ἐν τῇ ἀγορᾷ παρόντες ἐθαυμασαν

οἱ πολῖται οἱ ἐν τῇ ἀγορᾷ παρόντες ἐθαυμασαν.


I know that by adding the article after the word for "citizens", it renders the sentence to "the citizens who", as this example shows:


https://imgur.com/pJ4mUkw

But my study-book also translates a dative followed by present participle as "because":
https://imgur.com/a/1mrCq3l

How do I know if the translation of "οἱ πολῖται οἱ ἐν τῇ ἀγορᾷ παρόντες ἐθαυμασαν" is "the citizens, who were present, admired in the market" ...


New project on Books! The Simonides Project!

As we started a new project, I would like to create this post for you review our work.

I created the task:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=67977

Now we changed our project views and made this one (The Simonides Project):

https://simonidesproject.github.io/SimonidesPage/


You can find every information indo our site. Also, if you have problems, you can find our books

(The first 5)
ALexander in Punjaub, Greek and ...
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ἀκούω cum gen. rei

Is this how one is to take Plato, Apology 33 b3: ἀκούειν ὧν ἂν λέγω ?
Am double checking because, per LSJ, ἀκούω is used "prop. c. acc. of thing heard, gen. of person from whom it is heard". Smyth qualifies this:
"1366. In the meaning heed, hearken, obey, verbs of hearing generally take the genitive: ἄκουε πάντων, ἐκλέγου δ᾽ ἃ συμφέρει listen to everything, but choose that which is profitable Men."
but I am ...
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Crowdsourced translations

I've not found any actual sites, but I was wondering to what extent the idea of a crowdsourced Greek Classics translation site has been discussed, where it would be like a wiki format, with perhaps voted on translations line by line, with ample clicking for alternate proposed translations, discussions, etc. The intent would be to have people generate their own translations instead of simply polling past translations. I put this in the Greek section, because ...
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Greek accentuation (phonetics)

I am sharing this problem not because I expect anyone will necessarily have a well-grounded opinion about how the ancient Greeks themselves spoke - though obviously it will be excellent if they do - but because knowing if anyone else has an aesthetically satisfying way (satisfying at least to themselves) of reproducing the Greek pitch accents will be almost as good. If nothing else, sharing a problem can make one feel better.

I understand an ...
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Herodotus

Can anyone recommend a Horodotus text for an intermediate level self-learner? I am currently reading the Faenum Publishing editions of Lucian's Dialogues (of the Gods, of the Heterai, etc) and I rather like the glossaries and grammatical notes on each page.
Thanks
Michael
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