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Charmides 160

Εἶτα, ἦν δ᾿ ἐγώ, οὐ καλὸν ἄρτι ὡμολόγεις τὴν σωφροσύνην εἶναι;
Πάνυ γ᾿, ἔφη.
Οὐκοῦν καὶ ἀγαθοὶ ἄνδρες οἱ σώφρονες;
Ναί.
Ἆρ᾿ οὖν ἂν εἴη ἀγαθόν, ὃ μὴ ἀγαθοὺς ἀπεργάζεται;
Οὐ δῆτα.
Οὐ μόνον οὖν ἄρα καλόν, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀγαθόν ἐστιν.
Ἔμοιγε δοκεῖ.


For the logical conclusion that he draws from this to make sense, I would have expected something like "Is there anything that is not good that produces good men?" which I guess ...
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Εὐρώταν Greek Anthology 5.60

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Παρθένος ἀργυρόπεζος ἐλούετο, χρύσεα μαζῶν
χρωτὶ γαλακτοπαγεῖ μῆλα διαινομένη·
πυγαὶ δ᾽ ἀλλήλαις περιηγέες εἱλίσσοντο,
ὕδατος ὑγροτέρῳ χρωτὶ σαλευόμεναι·
τὸν δ᾽ ὑπεροιδαίνοντα κατέσκεπε πεπταμένη χεὶρ
οὐχ ὅλον Εὐρώταν, ἀλλ᾽ ὅσον ἠδύνατο.

Like everybody else, I guess, I was puzzled by Εὐρώταν. But maybe Denys Page says everything that can be said about it:

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Wanted: Dedicated Proof Listener for Reading of Anabasis

I'll be recording the Anabasis on Librivox and I need somebody to join Librivox to be a dedicated proof listener. The requirements to be a PL or DPL are spelled out here. Only Standard Proof-listening is required.
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Longus 1.14.2 Does καὶ γὰρ mean "just like"?

Can καὶ γὰρ mean "just like", or am I approaching these two wrongly
The question arises while reading:

Longus 1.14.2 wrote:Πόσοι βάτοι με ἤμυξαν, καὶ οὐκ ἔκλαυσα: πόσαι μέλιτται κέντρον ἐνῆκαν, ἀλλὰ ἔφαγον: τουτὶ δὲ τὸ νύττον μου τὴν καρδίαν πάντων ἐκείνων πικρότερον. Καλὸς ὁ Δάφνις, καὶ γὰρ τὰ ἄνθη: καλὸν ἡ σύριγξ αὐτοῦ φθέγγεται, καὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀηδόνες. Ἀλλ̓ ἐκείνων οὐδείς μοι λόγος. Εἴθε αὐτοῦ σύριγξ ἐγενόμην, ἵν̓ ἐμπνέῃ μοι:
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Longus 1.14 2 τουτὶ τὸ νύττον noun or articular participle?

Is it possible for an articular participle to be used with a demonstrative, or is this necessarily a noun?

The question arises while reading:

Longus 1.14.2 wrote:Πόσοι βάτοι με ἤμυξαν, καὶ οὐκ ἔκλαυσα: πόσαι μέλιτται κέντρον ἐνῆκαν, ἀλλὰ ἔφαγον: τουτὶ δὲ τὸ νύττον μου τὴν καρδίαν πάντων ἐκείνων πικρότερον. Καλὸς ὁ Δάφνις, καὶ γὰρ τὰ ἄνθη: καλὸν ἡ σύριγξ αὐτοῦ φθέγγεται, καὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀηδόνες. Ἀλλ̓ ἐκείνων οὐδείς μοι λόγος. Εἴθε αὐτοῦ σύριγξ ἐγενόμην, ἵν̓ ἐμπνέῃ ...


"Continuing beginner" question

Hello,

I've introduced myself on the Open Board; in a nutshell: I've had an elementary course based on reading Greek, not writing, grammar hasn't stuck in my head, so I'm slowly working through Carl Ruck's "Ancient Greek". It looks as if I'm in a minority on this board, as a beginner, and I hope you'll tolerate elementary questions like this.

I have learnt nominative and accusative cases, and present indic. act verbs. I'm on the ...
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Charmides 156A

Καὶ ὅς, Ἀπογράψομαι τοίνυν, ἔφη, παρὰ σοῦ τὴν ἐπῳδήν.
Πότερον, ἦν δ᾿ ἐγώ, ἐάν με πείθῃς ἢ κἂν μή;
Γελάσας οὖν, Ἐάν σε πείθω, ἔφη, ὦ Σώκρατες.

Overall it's clear enough what's going on here, but I'm a little confused about the precise meaning of Socrates' question.

Is Socrates saying:

"Will it happen that way, whether you persuade me or not?" And then Charmides answers "If I should persuade you."

Or is it closer to ...
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Readers and Grammars?

Hello guys
Just a question... Not too difficult one
I'm picking back Ancient Greek after long years (I need it for graduate school in the fall of 2019) and actually it goes very fast (I studied it for long years); I could go through the two volumes of Athenaze quite effortlessly, but I'm definitely not ready for real text and though I can read quite fast, I feel many details of grammar are a bit ...
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four new gospel Gentle Greek Readers now on Amazon.com

I hope some of you will be pleased to know about four new gospel Gentle Greek Readers now on Amazon.com. Search Amazon for "Gentle Greek Reader".

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These easy chair readers put in one hand everything intermediate students need to put your feet up and enjoy reading Greek without reaching for and flipping through reference books. You get the verse-by-verse Greek text of the entire gospel, a facing-page English translation, and a separate and complete ...
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internal accusative/object

Since I failed to find anywhere an explicit definition of the concept in the subject line, I am attempting to provide my own, based on the examples kindly supplied in response to my previous posting, and am inviting your criticisms.
Here it is: an internal object is an object that can be inferred from the meaning of a verb and designated by a noun not necessarily cognate with that verb.
E.g., τυπτειν πολλα. I was ...
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