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Moss, A First Greek Reader Translation Question

In Moss' A First Greek Reader, story #25, Alcibiades Trips Pericles in a Definition of Law, I am having trouble translating the second line below. Is it an indefinite clause or a conditional clause? Or do I ignore the particle and translate it as "Certainly, I know it, Alcibiades."? After searching grammars for a similar construction without any success, I pose the question to someone more knowledgeable than I. Thanks.

Α. οἶσθα, ὦ Περίκλεις, τί ...
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Soph. OT 1076 Ὁποῖα χρῄζει ῥηγνύτω

{ΟΙ.} Ὁποῖα χρῄζει ῥηγνύτω· τοὐμὸν δ' ἐγώ,
κεἰ σμικρόν ἐστι, σπέρμ' ἰδεῖν βουλήσομαι.

It appears that χρῄζω is used here with an impersonal agent: "Break forth what will! " — Jebb. "May whatever will burst forth!" — Lloyd-Jones.

I looked in LSJ but didn't find anything which was clearly impersonal. Perhaps "fate" (not explicitly mentioned here) is treated as a sort of personal agent.
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A Parallel of Greek and Latin Syntax

I just stumbled across this book: https://books.google.com/books?id=E8xFA ... &q&f=false
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here before but it sets Latin and Greek syntax side by side in columns with example sentences (translated) covering every topic from the case uses to subordinate clauses. I've only skimmed through it but it looks like a great book to browse through for anyone who studies both Latin and Greek.
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Monosyllabic dental stems of the third declension

Is the accusative singular of παῖς παίν or παῖδα? Mastronarde says that for disyllabic stems of third-declension dentals the accusative is the short form when accented on the first syllable and the longer form when accented on the second, but is silent on monosyllables.

Thanks.
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how do you learn 3rd declensions?

requirementS to attain reading proficiency in an inflected language IS perplexing me.. :o

could anyone here share some method/s in learning paradigms especially the noun system?
I ask these because, the first Greek book I learned from is mounce, and he teaches that we should only to memorize the 'pattern' and eight rules.
but I also aware that the pattern doesnt always work for the some groups ...
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it rained in Ancient Greek

This a fork from the weather thread in the Agora

LSJ gives several references for the intransitive use of βρέχω. The most easily accessible (ie online) is the Epistle of James 5.17-18

Ἠλείας ἄνθρωπος ἦν ὁμοιοπαθὴς ἡμῖν, καὶ προσευχῇ προσηύξατο τοῦ μὴ βρέξαι, καὶ οὐκ ἔβρεξεν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἐνιαυτοὺς τρεῖς καὶ μῆνας ἕξ: καὶ πάλιν προσηύξατο, καὶ ὁ οὐρανὸς ὑετὸν ἔδωκεν καὶ ἡ γῆ ἐβλάστησεν τὸν καρπὸν αὐτῆς.

Elijah was a man ...
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Accent, ἆρ' ἐστὶ

Aristotle's Metaphysics 1049 a 1:
οἷον ἡ γῆ ἆρ' ἐστὶ δυνάμει ἄνθρωπος;

Why not ἆρ' ἐστι ?
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Ὁμιλεῖτε Ἑλληνικά (Do you speak Greek?)

Thanks to Joel for finding this

https://archive.org/stream/DoYouSpeakGr ... 0/mode/2up

although I note that Louis Sorenson mentioned it in passing a few years ago on B-Greek.

http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/lists.ibi ... 53149.html

This book does three things which are staples of the Direct Method.

1. It includes Ancient Greek forms of all its metalanguage.
2. It uses pictures and L2 definitions to minimize the need for L1 ...
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Why do we use the genitive singular as the stem identifier?

It seems to me that there's a very clear problem with using the genitive singular as the way to learn/identify the stem of Greek nouns.

Take ναύτης, for example, the first-declension word that means "sailor." The entry in Hansen & Quinn gives ναύτης, ναύτου. From this you would expect that the stem is ναύ-, and you'd use that to get all the rest of the forms, including e.g. the nominative plural ναύται—which is wrong. The ...
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bryn mawr commentaries - all the same?

I did have the impression that Bryn Mawr Commentaries were all pretty much the same. The commentary is very much focused on the grammar without getting distracted to wider historical or artistic aspects but not as extensive as I at least really need.

Two of their commentaries, I have tried, have changed my mind.
Chariton: Callirhoe, Book 1 by Cashman Kerr Prince does keep to the grammar but he focuses on the accidence and there ...
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