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αὐτό as αὐτόν

Avoiding the original thread. The LSJ says that αὐτό is sometimes written αὐτόν and gives Leg. Gort. 3.4 as a reference. This is short for Leges Gortynensium (GDI 4991, Schwyzer 179). GDI is Sammlung der griechischen Dialekt-Inschriften. Inscription 4991 is here: https://books.google.com/books?id=_3IsA ... &q&f=false

I think that the quote in question is:

αἰ δέ τι ἄλλο φέροι τῶ ἀνδρός, πέντε στατῆρανς καταστασεῖ κὤτι κα φερῃ αὐτόν, κὤτι κα παρἐλῃ ...
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Archilochus/ Enualios

First fragment, by Archilochus, in Cambell's Greek Lyric Poetry:

Εἰμὶ δ' ἐγὼ θεράπων μὲν Ἐνυαλίοιο ἄνακτος,
καὶ Μουσέων ἐρατὸν δῶρον ἐπιστάμενος.

Am I right in assuming King Enualios/ Enyalius is the god of war Ares? I think I came across this name in the Iliad. However I'm a bit confused by reading on wikipedia (yes, I know) that it can also refer to his son, apparently the god of soldiers.

Secondly, any translations that can ...
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Reading manuscripts

Is it worthwhile to spend time with this manuscript until I get comfortable with the script?

http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDispla ... d_MS_11884

I can read it, but slowly. I can't tell how much of that is the difficulty of an unknown script or poor handwriting. I am hoping that if I spend time with it, I'll be able to read related scripts. But if there is a better manuscript to start with, ...
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Passage in Apology Plato

I have a question about passage 23d9 in Plato's apology, I am wondering why the "ἅτε οὖν οἶμαι" is followed by a nominative instead of an accusative. My understanding is that it translates literally as "Therefore seeing that I consider". I would expect the "φιλότιμοι ὄντες καὶ σφοδροὶ....." and what follows to be the direct object of "ἅτε οὖν οἶμαι". Is there a peculiarity about this "οἶμαι" verb that I do not know about?

ἅτε ...
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Learn to Read Greek

One of my colleagues wants to learn Greek and asked for my advice concerning textbooks. I used Mastronarde myself, but didn't really like it, though it's definitely a solid introduction. He's specifically interested in Attic (mainly philosophy), so I can't recommend Schroeder & Horrigan or Pharr.
So I have been looking around a bit and would like to know if someone has experience with Learn to Read Greek by Keller and Russel: ...
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Anachronism in pronunciation with accentuation?

We know that the accent marks were only added around 3rd century BC for foreign people to learn contemporary Greek better. But this means that the accent marks only reflect the accenting situation at around that time. So, they do not mark the accenting situation in, say, Aristotle's time or Homer's time.

Some of us use the "reconstructed classical pronunciation" for Classical and Epic/Homeric Greek, together with the foresaid accentuation system. The pronunciation is thought ...
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I'm restarting a group for Greek: An Intensive Course by Hansen and Quinn.

Anyone interested in joining? It's a difficult, fast-paced textbook. Great for a thorough review or a quick drive into more advanced Greek texts and grammatical structures.

If you've got time for an intensive study of Greek, please let me know. I can get a temporary electronic version of the text to you until you're able to get a copy for yourself. (My ...
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Third Chorus Soph. OT {Ant. 2.} 896-910

I was doing a little free-association contemplation re: Soph. OT 896-901. It sounds to me like a little bit of post-enlightenment scepticism, something vaguely like: if you can't demonstrate to me how the oracles prediction is fulfilled in a manner that everyman can verify by observation, I will give up participating in the worship … traveling to the temple, oracle whatever. Since academic criticism of Sophocles is foreign territory I looked for an article on ...
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τῶν τις

Herodotus 1.185.2:
πρῶτα μὲν τὸν Εὐφρήτην ποταμὸν ῥέοντα πρότερον ἰθύν, ὅς σφι διὰ τῆς πόλιος μέσης ῥέει, τοῦτον ἄνωθεν διώρυχας ὀρύξασα οὕτω δή τι ἐποίησε σκολιὸν ὥστε δὴ τρὶς ἐς τῶν τινα κωμέων τῶν ἐν τῇ Ἀσσυρίῃ ἀπικνέεται ῥέων.

What disturbs me is this sandwiching τις between the article and the noun, which I had already encountered before twice or thrice in Herodotus in τῶν τις Λυδών. I don't remember seeing this in Greek before. ...
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