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Perfect participles -- Xenophon's Symposium

I happened to pick up Xenophon's Symposium, and I noticed that in the opening sections, there are a number of perfect participles. I thought it might be helpful to copy the text and an English translation with a short explanation of the perfect participles (and some other perfects) -- so that you can see why they're not aorists, i.e., to show how they emphasize a present state, rather than simply an action that occurred before ...
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Common pronunciation errors for Anglophones

I am a native speaker of English (I grew up in Alberta, to locate the accent more exactly) and there are a few issues that I try to pay attention to when I pronounce Greek. For instance, I try to avoid lengthening short vowels in open syllables, and to not voice sigmas between vowels (but I do voice them before voiced consonants). Getting the aspiration right in stops is hard (tau and theta, phi and ...
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frequency of perfect participles

Without (yet) having the benefit of getting this information through reading (to be done), I would like to ask:

In the sentences of this kind: "Having come to the city, I entered a shop." or "Having knocked, the door opened." would you expect frequently the participle of perfect in the Attic Greek? I know that logically it should be here (because this is exactly how would one describe the perfect: it fits the definition), but ...
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really everything clean ?

Nestle Greek New Testament 1904
πάντα καθαρὰ τοῖς καθαροῖς· τοῖς δὲ μεμιαμμένοις καὶ ἀπίστοις οὐδὲν καθαρόν, ἀλλὰ μεμίανται αὐτῶν καὶ ὁ νοῦς καὶ ἡ συνείδησις.


why translation has been done this way

New International Version
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
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should be like that -

what is pure to pure ...
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Mark: "Fishers of Men"

http://youtu.be/J-MHuIfYaAA

I received "Biblia Graeca" in the mail yesterday, and thought that I would read something from it. I might read part of Ruth, or a Psalm later. Let me know if there are any requests.
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Greek conversation practice

Anyone up for Google Voice conversations (in Greek)? We can prepare first and discuss a specific section of Xenophon, the New Testament (or whatever). I'd also be happy to use one of Blackie's dialogues, or Thrasymachus. Or whatever interests you.

Ideally, I'd like to start doing this every day. And we probably don't need to limit conversations to 1 on 1.
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ὁρμὴν ἔσχε

This is from the Polybius 3.6.13
ἅμα τῷ περιποιήσασθαι τὴν ἐκ τῶν Ἑλλήνων εὔνοιαν ὁμολογουμένην, εὐθέως προφάσει χρώμενος ὅτι σπεύδει μετελθεῖν τὴν Περσῶν παρανομίαν εἰς τοὺς Ἕλληνας, ὁρμὴν ἔσχε καὶ προέθετο πολεμεῖν καὶ πάντα πρὸς τοῦτο τὸ μέρος ἡτοίμαζε.

And here is my as literal as possible translation
At the same time as he had gained the freely-given good will of the Greeks, he at once using the pretext that he is hastening ...
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Arabian Nights

I ran across this passage from Sir Richard Burton's translation of the Arabian Nights (The Second Kalandar's Tale):

"Know, O my lady, that I was not born one-eyed and mine is a strange story; an it were graven with needle-graver on the eye-corners, it were a warner to whoso would be warned. I am a King, son of a King, and was brought up like a Prince."

Burton's use of "an" here is so like ...
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Greeks & Medicine

For those with an interest in medicine these heavily annotated editions of Hippocrates (Airs, Waters and Places + the famous oath) and Galenus (Three Treatises) edited by Stephen Nimis look really nice.

Hippocrates: http://www.amazon.de/Hippocrates-Airs-W ... 365&sr=1-4
Galenus: http://www.amazon.de/Galen-Three-Treati ... 365&sr=1-6
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Mispronouncing Ancient Greek (Demosthenes)

Along the lines of γαλῆν ὁρῶ vs. γαλήν' ὁρῶ, the scholiast on Demosthenes' most famous speech, On the Crown (no. 18 in the Demosthenic corpus) tells an amusing if probably apocryphal story.

Demosthenes' policies, largely directed against the aggressive expansionism of Philip of Macedon, ended in failure when an alliance crafted by Demosthenes between Athens and Thebes, traditional enemies, was defeated by Philip at Chaeronea in 338. In On the Crown, Demosthenes is defending his ...
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