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Thucydides 1.42.1.

‘ὧν ἐνθυμηθέντες καὶ νεώτερός τις παρὰ πρεσβυτέρου αὐτὰ μαθὼν ἀξιούτω τοῖς ὁμοίοις ἡμᾶς ἀμύνεσθαι, καὶ μὴ νομίσῃ δίκαια μὲν τάδε λέγεσθαι, ξύμφορα δέ, εἰ πολεμήσει, ἄλλα εἶναι.

A small question about syntax: is πολεμήσει an impersonal construction, similar to ὕει "it's raining"? εἰ πολεμήσει "if there will be war"?


My reading project is advancing at a snail's pace...
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Which work does the abbreviation Tim.Pers. stand for?

In the LSJ entry for ἀκτή (A), there is a reference to Tim.Pers.109. Whose and what is that work?

Thanks in advance.
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Plato's Greek and "Attic in the street"

Some of the recent posts with snippets of Plato have me wondering to what extent Plato's dialogues reflect the actual spoken Greek current in Athens at the time of his writing. Of course these are carefully crafted literary pieces designed to communicate the author's viewpoint but one can write such carefully crafted material and still use contemporary and colloquial speech. Thoughts? Any one know of any books, monographs or treatises on the subject?
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Plato, Symp. 174 a8-b1

"ἦ δ’ ὅς, πῶς ἔχεις πρὸς τὸ ἐθέλειν ἂν ἰέναι ἄκλητος ἐπὶ δεῖπνον;"
What is ἂν doing here?
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Preposition + Verb Compounds

I've noticed that there are a lot of verbs that appear to be compounds of a preposition and a verb, the prepositional prefixes ending in a vowel and the verb proper beginning with a consonant. Now when you make the verb aorist, the epsilon augment would fall between the preposition and the verb, correct? Since that would result in the terminal vowel of the preposition falling directly before the epsilon, the terminal vowel would be ...
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Plato Explained In Koine Greek

I found a really cool channel (in my own opinion) on youtube that has really improved my auditory comprehension of Ancient Greek as well as my vocabulary:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4hkPN ... jbQ/videos

This video in particular is pretty cool:
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participle taking the gender of its predicate

I know that, as a rule, a participle takes the gender of its predicate (or object)--as in "οἶδε μὲν γὰρ οὐδεὶς τὸν θάνατον οὐδ’ εἰ τυγχάνει τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ πάντων μέγιστον ὂν τῶν ἀγαθῶν" (Plato, Apol. 29 a 6-8); yet I find it difficult logically to digest this rule, given that the participle's having a gender is due to its being an adjective, and the gender of an adjective is defined by the subject that it ...
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μή + subj in Plato, Symp. 194 c4

ἀλλ’ εὖ οἶδα ὅτι εἴ τισιν ἐντύχοις οὓς ἡγοῖο σοφούς, μᾶλλον ἂν αὐτῶν φροντίζοις ἢ τῶν πολλῶν. ἀλλὰ μὴ οὐχ οὗτοι ἡμεῖς ὦμεν—ἡμεῖς μὲν γὰρ καὶ ἐκεῖ παρῆμεν καὶ ἦμεν τῶν πολλῶν—εἰ δὲ ἄλλοις ἐντύχοις σοφοῖς, τάχ’ ἂν αἰσχύνοιο αὐτούς, εἴ τι ἴσως οἴοιο αἰσχρὸν ὂν ποιεῖν· ἢ πῶς λέγεις;
If it were "ἀλλὰ οὐχ οὗτοί ἐσμεν", I would take it, for better or worse, as having the force of a question expressing a hope ...
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Greek Accentuation

What is the best book for learning Greek accentuation (when one is primarily studying Classical Greek)?
I have been recommended both P. Probert's 'A new short guide to the accentuation of ancient Greek', and D.A. Carson's 'Greek Accents'. Would anyone here have advice on choosing between the two, or other suggestions? I already have a good grip of grammar, vocabulary, and accentuation of verbs.

Thank you in advance.
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"οὐ δήπου" in questions = μή ?

Smyth 2850:
"In questions δήπου expects the answer yes. οὐ δήπου certainly not and is it not so? (with irony)."
Yet by itself, as far as I understand, οὐ expects the answer yes, and μή expects the answer no.
Am I, then, getting it right that, when used together in questions οὐ and δήπου have the force of μή (as if annihilating the "yes" expectation each of them would be producing by itself), like in ...
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